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Topic: BMW Car Club Membership
Posted By: Nigel
Subject: BMW Car Club Membership
Date Posted: 06-February-2006 at 10:53

Would any forum members that have been BMWCC members and have let their membership lapse please contact me and let me know why they didn't renew please ?

Many thanks for your co-operation.



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Best Wishes

Nigel




Replies:
Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 09-March-2006 at 09:50

So what responce have you had on this Nigel?

 



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Previous:

E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv
E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets

Current:
116i Sport F20


Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 11-March-2006 at 04:41

A couple that didn't want to be quoted, that hadn't renewed due to ill feeling between fellow club members, percieved feelings of not being made to feel welcome.

Your reply.

And the fact that I probably won't bother this time.



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Best Wishes

Nigel



Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 13-March-2006 at 15:56
Nigel wrote :- 

A couple that didn't want to be quoted, that hadn't renewed due to ill feeling between fellow club members, percieved feelings of not being made to feel welcome.

Understandable !!



Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 13-March-2006 at 16:04
sad but true



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Posted By: D12TRE
Date Posted: 13-March-2006 at 16:07

i have  found everyone qiute friendly on here

i cant remember when my membership runs out??? lol

darren



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Posted By: PaulS
Date Posted: 13-March-2006 at 16:13

I've found that to be the same Darren! Mine runs out at the end of the month so DD on the 1st April and a member for another year.

Paul



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95 E34 530i V8 Auto Maldives Blue


Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 13-March-2006 at 16:34
I've only just renewed mine last month (they give you a reminder in the club mag)

Shame that people leave the club due to others, I think it's worth it just for the benfits and discounts alone - even if you never go on a club outing/meet or wander onto this forum or even meet anyone else associated with the club.

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V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate
J Reg Saab 900i 16v
'63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe
R reg Honda PC50 moped..

No BMW as yet...


Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 13-March-2006 at 16:59
well like i said its sad but i still think this is a great club and forum one of the best ,if not the best

but there are some i have met that make u feel unwelcome but i"am a big boy ang just give them the finger ,but some people do feel intimidated

its the members that make a club and 90% of them are bang on ,and 10% need a good slap

dazz



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Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 13-March-2006 at 17:41

The problem is tho,we have 5000 members and over 7000 registered forum members,so if a small % just use forum and are not interested in club it could be them that makes the real members not want to Re join or Re Join

 

The thing i laugh at tho is most of them will expect to go to Gaydon

 

Get your hand in your wallets and pay the £32

Get to some meets/events and get to know some people

Try it

 



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Previous:

E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv
E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets

Current:
116i Sport F20


Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 13-March-2006 at 18:01

Originally posted by Rhys Rhys wrote:

Shame that people leave the club due to others, I think it's worth it just for the benfits and discounts alone - even if you never go on a club outing/meet or wander onto this forum or even meet anyone else associated with the club

I agree - if you are a BMW user, then what other club is there?

 

Originally posted by Nigel Nigel wrote:

the fact that I probably won't bother this time.

Shame - just stay as a forum modorator!

Who says you have to be a BMWCC member to do that?



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Cats know your every thought.

But don't care.


Posted By: bodger122
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 05:43
Im ust admit, im not a member of the Club as yet, but im using the forum as a measuring stick of how friendly people are.

if im still happy in a couple of months ill join up, but if it gets bitchy and clicky, like other forums have, i wont bother.

so far, everyone has been more than friendly and helpfull, so im confident ill join


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E46 323i SE Saloon in Titanium Silver. Digital Aircon+ 6CD Stacker + M sport Accesories


Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 09:44
I think all forums have bitchy moments and i wouldn't use it as the only yardstick

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Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor
Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE
1997 E39 523i
2003 E39 525i Sport Individual


Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 11:06

I agree with you there KB, but i dont see what benefit i would get from joining the BMWCCGB so i dont think or should i said i know i definatley will not be joining



Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 11:09
come on mr dirty pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Posted By: jamie (e39)528i
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 12:51
Originally posted by dirtybeemer dirtybeemer wrote:

I agree with you there KB, but i dont see what benefit i would get from joining the BMWCCGB so i dont think or should i said i know i definatley will not be joining

What??? Discount on parts and servicing,insurance discounts with selected companies to name a few,and you get a nice shiny sticker to put in your car!! 

I came over from the drivers club and have found everyone i have met in the club very friendly and when i have needed help with anything the people on this forum have been helpful.



Posted By: PaulS
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 14:50

I came over from the drivers club as well Jamie and the discounts have helped me no-end over the years. The people on here have always been helpful (sometimes with a bit of p*ss take) but then you get that when you're at work etc and I don't take offence.

Paul



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95 E34 530i V8 Auto Maldives Blue


Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 15:22
jamie wrote :-  What??? Discount on parts and servicing,insurance discounts with selected companies to name a few,and you get a nice shiny sticker to put in your car!! 

I came over from the drivers club and have found everyone i have met in the club very friendly and when i have needed help with anything the people on this forum have been helpful.

discount on parts, i have the internet so can get parts cheap anyway if i shop around.

 servicing i do myself so i know its done properly

Insurance £340 fully comprehensive a year for me and the wife.

Discounts with selected stores can get that anyway if youre cheeky enough.

Dont do stickers sorry. lol so i dont really see the point.

Most people from the club are on the forum and i totally agree that nearly everyone i have met on here is very friendly, helpful, and a great bunch, dont get me wrong i love the forum but i just honestly cant see the point of joining the club sorry guys.



Posted By: aqua
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 15:36
hi, i am just about to join the club to. ever one seems ok and all seem to have fun at the meets, are people being funny to each other on the fourm or at the main meets?. so far found ever body so helpfull. hope to meet some of you at some meets. peter..


Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 16:06

Originally posted by aqua aqua wrote:

hi, i am just about to join the club to. ever one seems ok and all seem to have fun at the meets, are people being funny to each other on the fourm or at the main meets?. so far found ever body so helpfull. hope to meet some of you at some meets. peter..

 

Glad to hear you are joining soon

The club is made by it`s members,so it`s up to us to make it as good as we can

 

Without us there would be no Gaydon (I keep using this as an example,but it`s a good one)

 

 



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Previous:

E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv
E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets

Current:
116i Sport F20


Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 16:07
Originally posted by dirtybeemer dirtybeemer wrote:

jamie wrote :-  What??? Discount on parts and servicing,insurance discounts with selected companies to name a few,and you get a nice shiny sticker to put in your car!! 

I came over from the drivers club and have found everyone i have met in the club very friendly and when i have needed help with anything the people on this forum have been helpful.

discount on parts, i have the internet so can get parts cheap anyway if i shop around.

 servicing i do myself so i know its done properly

Insurance £340 fully comprehensive a year for me and the wife.

Discounts with selected stores can get that anyway if youre cheeky enough.

Dont do stickers sorry. lol so i dont really see the point.

Most people from the club are on the forum and i totally agree that nearly everyone i have met on here is very friendly, helpful, and a great bunch, dont get me wrong i love the forum but i just honestly cant see the point of joining the club sorry guys.

 

To add a Monthly Magazine to the list as well



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Previous:

E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv
E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets

Current:
116i Sport F20


Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 16:11

Originally posted by bmwcrazy bmwcrazy wrote:

but there are some i have met that make u feel unwelcome but i"am a big boy ang just give them the finger ,but some people do feel intimidated


 

If this statement is about your region i would like to hear about it via Pm please



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Previous:

E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv
E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets

Current:
116i Sport F20


Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 16:55

na pete derby, mum and dad stay there and yes there are a few fannys in the scottish area too but most off the guys and girls are brand new like i said

 

dazz 



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Posted By: steven.seed
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 17:10

It is a great shame that people should be made to feel unwelcome either within the club and its meets or on the forum. I do also remember comments on a post a while back that suggested some people within the club were not comfortable with the association with the forum yet surely the two go hand in hand. I began to participate in forum discussion before I joined the club. It was the forum and the friendliness and welcome I received that first made me consider joining. Then by looking at the events calender I was able to check on when and where the NW meets were held. I then attended a meet and was greeted with such friendliness and enthusiasm that I went home and applied for membership the same night and so far have enjoyed the same welcome at subsequent meets, but without the forum it is unlikely I would have joined the club. 

The welcome and advice I have been given on the forum has come from lots of forum members in areas all around the UK and I hope that I in my own way have contributed to the forum. Sometimes, as Paul said earlier there is a bit of p1$$ taking but thats all part of the crack and should be taken in good spirit. I would say the less than friendly element are in the minority and should not be allowed to spoil the enjoyment of the majority. Being a club member is not only about the benefits but a feeling of belonging to something good with like minded people that have a mutual passion about something. I could pass the likes of Pete330, Dirtybeemer or Nigel etc in the street and not know them from Adam, but they and many others have offered me advice on here freely and with good wishes and that is what makes the club and forum so important to us all. Steve.



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1998 E36 318iS Saloon   
1989 E30 318i. Coupe
2000 E39 520i Touring



Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 17:43

correct but its the forum that will get u new members .move with the times .there is a lot of good people on this forum good crack and for the fannys u now who u are grow up

lifes too short  



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Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 18:07
Originally posted by bmwcrazy bmwcrazy wrote:

there are a few fannys in the scottish area too dazz 

 

Wish there were Lol



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Previous:

E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv
E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets

Current:
116i Sport F20


Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 18:09
lol very good PETE very good  

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Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 14-March-2006 at 19:55

Pete330 wrote :- To add a Monthly Magazine to the list as well

lol throw in a blue peter badge aswell and i might think about it



Posted By: steven.seed
Date Posted: 15-March-2006 at 03:38
Originally posted by dirtybeemer dirtybeemer wrote:

 

lol throw in a blue peter badge aswell and i might think about it

Its very easy to make one, all you need is some glue, an empty fairy liquid bottle, an empty yogurt pot, a safety pin and a felt tip marker!!!   LOL    



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1998 E36 318iS Saloon   
1989 E30 318i. Coupe
2000 E39 520i Touring



Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 15-March-2006 at 04:05
lol very good !!


Posted By: redguy
Date Posted: 15-March-2006 at 05:28
I was a club member - and created and ran a register (rather not say which one) for a good 18 months, but let my membership expire last year.

What got me was the total disinterest from hierachy within the club. After donating my own time and expense, I could never get any response or help from certain quarters. Even when I gave up my post, I did not even get a reply to my resignation e-mail, let alone any appreciation of my efforts. Even when I sent all the membership forms back, I heard nothing!bigcry

There was a mention in the magazine, though, looking for somebody to take over.

All I would say is that the club is a good thing, but I feel that lack of support and the general air of it being run for the ammusement of a certain few compelled me to give up. The forum is a nicer and friendlier place to be.Big SmileBig SmileBig Smile


Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 15-March-2006 at 05:53

I know what you mean, you give up your time and put in 100% to make the register the best it can be, and you dont even get thank you even when you resign is just disgusting from the hierachy, they can advertise for a replacement but they cant send a simple thanks for your time and efforts, thats why im happy on the forum i have never been a member of the club, so why join something that you have never been part of, and from what you have said in your post im glad im not part of it.



Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 15-March-2006 at 07:03
I have been involved in the club for about 4 years (I think).
Since then I guess I have rolled up my sleeves and got stuck in. I help organise events, etc. I was asked to create a forum three and a half years ago and even now its administration takes several hours a week (backing up uploaded files(~400Mb) and the database (~350Mb)).
I don't get any money (nor do I really want any) -  I do it because I enjoy the club. Without others doing similar tasks there would be nothing.
The fact that there are 3 full time employees in the office means that the club needs an income. They make money from adverts, sponsorship and membership fees. This income also pays for items such as printing/postage of the mags and other stuff.
I am a member of a marshals club which also charges a membership fee. The club requires volunteer members to stand around a racing track (in all weather) during motor racing. The club members get much less then BMW club members but there is no complaint.


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Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor
Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE
1997 E39 523i
2003 E39 525i Sport Individual


Posted By: steven.seed
Date Posted: 15-March-2006 at 07:06

Originally posted by redguy redguy wrote:


All I would say is that the club is a good thing, but I feel that lack of support and the general air of it being run for the ammusement of a certain few compelled me to give up. The forum is a nicer and friendlier place to be.Big SmileBig SmileBig Smile

Hi Red, This is a perfect example of the minority spoiling it for the rest. The club is supposed to be for all BMW owners not the elite few. Well its more the clubs loss than yours, a real shame. But on a brighter note any sign of the new motor yet mate ?  Bet you can't wait.    Steve.



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1998 E36 318iS Saloon   
1989 E30 318i. Coupe
2000 E39 520i Touring



Posted By: redguy
Date Posted: 15-March-2006 at 07:40
Hi Steve!

No sign as yetbigcry, although I am hopeful for the end of next week (possibly). They have said end of the month, so we'll see (you know about salesmen and promises!).

With the club, I was more than happpy to give up my time and effort, because all of the members I dealt with were really nice people. It is a shame, but there you go.

The wait continues...Big SmileBig SmileBig Smile


Posted By: 325i Ron
Date Posted: 17-March-2006 at 12:56

I have been in the Car Club now for 4 years came over from the Drivers Club just before Graham Arnold died. No disrespect to him but the resone I joined the Car Club was that I did not get the support from the Drivers Club. I was running monthly meets for the Drivers and have continued to do so here. Not long after I joined I was asked to be chair for the E30 Register and I still am. I have allways got the help etc from H.Q that I need. This of course works both ways, and dont be afraid to ask. I think the forum is very good the touble is would you say some of the things on the forum to someones face to face. I think we should remember the Forum and the Club are the same. It costs money to run the forum and this must come from the members, yes its a good way to intoduce new members. If we all stopped our membership no forum, no Gaydon etc. Well I have have said my bit just remember you cant please all of the people all of the time.

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Ron Parish
(E30 Register Chairman)


Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 17-March-2006 at 15:39

Originally posted by 325i Ron 325i Ron wrote:

 
just remember you cant please all of the people all of the time.

 

Ah one of my favourite sayings

 

"If you try and please everyone then No one will be happy"



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Previous:

E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv
E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets

Current:
116i Sport F20


Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 17-March-2006 at 16:22
very true dont let these muppets spoil it for u ,,as thats what they want

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Posted By: redguy
Date Posted: 18-March-2006 at 06:53
I don't think that anyone on here wants to spoil anything for anybody.


Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 18-March-2006 at 08:09

stop living in a dream world !!!then why was this topic started if its so perfect????????????????????????? we are not talking about the forum but about club membership ....



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Posted By: redguy
Date Posted: 18-March-2006 at 09:24
Excuse me, but I am not living in a dream world.

The origin of the topic was to find out why members (or, to be exact, ex-members) had let their membership lapse.

Nothing is ever perfect, I never said that it was. However, I am sure that the original postee would be unaware of the answers that he would get, hence the asking of the original question. Some people leave for a variety of reasons, some good, some bad. Not everyone has had a great experience with the club, and so I would assume that it would be important to put forward any issues for those in charge to either take on board or reject.

Incidentally, the use of one exclamation mark or question mark is adequate. Additional marks do not emphasise your point.

Now can we get back to normal?Big SmileBig SmileBig Smile


Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 18-March-2006 at 13:09

please edit above then or is this ur buddy

dazz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

--EDITED--


No Flaming on the Forum! Read the rules and guidelines!

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Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 18-March-2006 at 14:45
Dazz you naughty boy come and join me in the corner lol well thats the pair of us been edited know, so you know the song bad boys, bad boys, well i guess that's us


Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 18-March-2006 at 22:37

i think that mr rhys has a bit of a problem with me please tell me what i did wrong i find the top statment needs  a edit too why are mine just being done .???????

tell me about it dirty bit mad ok to slag me but i can not respond ,

 

hows it go ,bad boys bad boys what u going to do .........

i saved the post so i will foward it to the committeeeeeeee

like i say dont sweat the small stuff

if i have offended any body forgive me  the big man was only having a bit of patter



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Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 07:14

I know mate when i had my post edited, it was ok for the the other person to have a go and disrespect me, i wouldnt mind but it was the second time he did it, so i returned fire a bit harsher i know, but still all my post's got edited not just the offending bits and i got threatend with been banned for two weeks, what happend to the other person, absolutly nothing, but he has been a member for a long time, where i havent, so you see the point im trying to make, is that i think there is certain clicks on here, just the same that has been mentioned in the club and thats why some have let there membership lapse, and when i tryed putting my point across, i was also told that i wasnt forced to use this forum, basically if you dont like it then .... off.

I appologised for my actions, the other person said i regret nothing but he wasnt man enough to put it in english oh no , he had to put it in french, and he simply couldnt appologise for his actions.



Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 10:36

bang on dirty bang on all i can say is this is why people will not become members as u say dirty (clicks) dont worry about the big man i have friends in the real world a few off us on here have good crack and most off the folk are bang on but i think the last few posts have shown the darker side of the whole thing . every body i now drives bmws and i have spread the club and web site all around glasgow

 

silly me no more

dazz

 

 



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Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 11:20

I am the same dazz, i like this forum as the likes of us have a good crack, and most people on this forum that i have encounterd are great people and have give me sound advice and i hope i have returned that too, but there are some who just distrespect you for the likes of a spelling some thing wrong, or persecute you for your own personal view, im sorry but i was brought up with if "you havent got anything good to say about anyone then dont say anything" i mean how many people can i pull up on spelling on this forum ?, how many people have i pulled up about spelling, ill tell you none the simple reason is some people cant spell and to pull them up about it is like rubbing there face in the dirt which is disrespect, and i would never dream of doing that to anyone, just like with posting we all have our own views and opinions, but many have been jumped on for there views because its not what they want to hear, i thought we had freedom of speech, although on some post's there have been great debates but it starts to get a bit serious, and it shouldnt be like that at all, as for clicks it seems like it to me, but i may be wrong but thats how it comes across to me.



Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 11:41

well son i am a 30 year old man and i can not spell, but i am an engineer with finning caterpiller, i am happy with my self and if people find the need to pull us up, well go ahead. were do u put the full stops and why does dazz never use CAPS LOCK? i cant be bothered thats why people who know me know what am about, big mental dazz i have a lot of time for the guys on here, as there knowledge is amazing and i find they are first class guys. and for the people that have too much time on there hands its a small world.

 

dazz



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Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 12:40

i know what your saying mate, im 35 years old, and own my own buisness that me and the wife built up from nothing, we didnt use spelling and grammer either, just shear hard work to get where we are today i never ever judge anyone and respect everyone i meet.



Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 12:46

caps lock dirty come on  you"ll get pulled up, come on man

lol



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Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 13:47
Right, if you want it to get back to how it used to be on here - with everything being moderated (language, flaming etc. inc. moderating words that have been auto stared) then fine - I can do that. I can also go back and edit every post that doesn't exactly comply with the rules and guidelines of this forum, there would be lot of red ink and a few suspensions no doubt..

It is much more sensible would you agree, to only step in when things are going a bit too far? A healthy debate is always a good thing but having a direct attack on someone else will get pulled, constant use of bad language will also get pulled..

This is a family forum, as such the content should reflect that. If anyone has a problem with anyone elses post then please use the button, this will direct us straight to the problem without having to (sometimes) go through pages of posts.

On a personal note - I am a self employed plasterer in the building trade, which is also very hard work and has taken me several years to get to where I am now. I take people as I find them, never at face value - and I also speak my mind.



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V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate
J Reg Saab 900i 16v
'63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe
R reg Honda PC50 moped..

No BMW as yet...


Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 14:20

no i said only some people get edited i am not the only one to notice this. why are the adult links left on then if this is a family forum? u cant have it both ways we are all grown men and woman, nobody wants to offend anybody.

half the point of a forum is to meet people have a crack, learn things be a part of something, we make the club forum not bmw .

but yes i understand your points, and i know u do this for free and a lot of people give up there time to make it what it is, a good club and forum

but one rule for all, stop the buddy rules as we both know i said nothing offensive for u to edit it, i have read much worse. 

many members have sent me an email saying just leave it, its a loseing battle, well i guess it is.

dazz  



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Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 17:03
Originally posted by bmwcrazy bmwcrazy wrote:

no i said only some people get edited i am not the only one to notice this. why are the adult links left on then if this is a family forum? u cant have it both ways we are all grown men and woman, nobody wants to offend anybody.


I agree, but it is only a few that post these links/pics - and if they are too 'adult' they will be removed (as many have), or if anyone finds them offensive.

Quote half the point of a forum is to meet people have a crack, learn things be a part of something, we make the club forum not bmw .

Very true, I've met several people from the forum - and they are better for knowing than just words on a screen. This forum is the only one that's approved by BMW - which is why it is a bit more 'moderated' than others - usualy with respect to language.

Quote but yes i understand your points, and i know u do this for free and a lot of people give up there time to make it what it is, a good club and forum


Thanks, it can be difficult at times - trying to see everything from everyones point of view and striking a happy medium.

Quote but one rule for all, stop the buddy rules as we both know i said nothing offensive for u to edit it, i have read much worse.


You might have read much worse, we might have missed it - if you think it needs moderating then please report it.

Quote many members have sent me an email saying just leave it, its a loseing battle, well i guess it is.



dazz


I don't think so, I'm pleased you put your views accross on the forum so they can be discussed. Never a loosing battle if both sides can gain from it.


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V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate
J Reg Saab 900i 16v
'63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe
R reg Honda PC50 moped..

No BMW as yet...


Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 17:15
Originally posted by dirtybeemer dirtybeemer wrote:

I know mate when i had my post edited, it was ok for the the other person to have a go and disrespect me, i wouldnt mind but it was the second time he did it, so i returned fire a bit harsher i know, but still all my post's got edited not just the offending bits and i got threatend with been banned for two weeks, what happend to the other person, absolutly nothing, but he has been a member for a long time, where i havent, so you see the point im trying to make, is that i think there is certain clicks on here, just the same that has been mentioned in the club and thats why some have let there membership lapse, and when i tryed putting my point across, i was also told that i wasnt forced to use this forum, basically if you dont like it then .... off.

I appologised for my actions, the other person said i regret nothing but he wasnt man enough to put it in english oh no , he had to put it in french, and he simply couldnt appologise for his actions.



Your post was edited because of what it said in it. What you said was a lot worse than what the other member said.
Anyhow, I thought you have gotten over this.


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Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE
1997 E39 523i
2003 E39 525i Sport Individual


Posted By: Stone-IslandV8
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 17:28
Is this now a closed discussion or open for one more input-only my view based on being club member for circa 7 yrs now.

Club membership-with discounts and benefits with dealers and tuners and insurance companies (plus the RAC) it pays for itself easily each year.

Magazine- 2 mags and worth the membership fee again-some are great editions, some not so great but they are well produced and presented.

Activities- Having organised the MK meets for 3 years which ranged from 2 people to 32 people and back down to 2 I reckon the meets are a good thing as is Gaydon and other events however limited-number events should be run completely transparently to get round any possible rumours of nepotism.

Attitudes- I've met some great people on here and some (albeit fewer) berks whose heads had arguments with their rear ends at some points and their heads didnt win.There are some people into the cars and there are others who are interested in THEIR cars and weilding some kind of power and authority. Thats just life.

Forums-cannot see standards slipping and its a good 'in' to get new blood onboard. There have been some moderation issues I didnt agree with but thats life. This place is a bit like a country pub-the staff have to create an environment a wide range of different people have to enjoy and whilst some landlords will bar everyone they don't like others will give a quick hndslap. Simple. If you don't agree with it then theres always the PM system to resolve issues.
I am member of 5 other BM forums and only use the others when this is slow-I find the others more cliquey, more abusive, more biased than this 1.

PS Unless you've guessed I am really bored waiting to here if the car's been written off!!!!!

PPS Rhys-best of luck to you-I was forced out of my self employed plasterer position due to cheap migrant workers so upmost respect to you.

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Posted By: Stone-IslandV8
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 17:32
Sorry, forgot to say that I would like to see more naked women on the forum along with Lexus lights on 316s with full animal M3 bodykits, M5s with triple turbos and nitros, rear spoilers carefully crafted from the remnants of a boeing 747, boots packing the kind of install that'd scare Slipknot......and chromed deaths head gearknobs.

All on the one car would be great too.................in Burberry............................and gold-plated roundels.

Oh yes and cigarette advertising too.

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Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 17:39
Originally posted by Stone-IslandM3 Stone-IslandM3 wrote:

Sorry, forgot to say that I would like to see more naked women on the forum along with Lexus lights on 316s with full animal M3 bodykits, M5s with triple turbos and nitros, rear spoilers carefully crafted from the remnants of a boeing 747, boots packing the kind of install that'd scare Slipknot......and chromed deaths head gearknobs.

All on the one carw ould be great too.................in Burberry............................and gold-plated roundels.


UGH!!! Gold plated roundel... actualy the gold and the blue would go nice together but you forgot the chrome spinners and the neon lights everywhere..

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Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 17:39

Spot on dazz spot on, ive just copied and pastied what you and rhys had wrote and put my answers but ive deleted it, as there is no point whats happend has happend, and im leaving it at that as i cant be a***d with it anymore, time to move on.

 


 



Posted By: Stone-IslandV8
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 17:45
Originally posted by Rhys Rhys wrote:


UGH!!! Gold plated roundel... actualy the gold and the blue would go nice together but you forgot the chrome spinners and the neon lights everywhere..


Now I may have a really nice set of 4 carbon fibre wheel emblems going soon..........................

Seriously though, whay does anyone leave something...apathy, moneys tight, loads of reasons. Often nothing is wrong with the product ppeople just forget the benefits and let it slide.

As well as sending out lovely reminders for membership renewal why not include a short questionnaire, aimed at asking whats right AND wrong with the club, what areas could be made better and what areas made EVEN better and what benefits members would like to see added to the club.

This sort of thing has an intrinsic feel-good factor, makes members feel involved and serves to remind them the benefits membership has given them.

Knwoing John Safe as I do I would repeat what I've said to John on many occasions in that IMO the clubs ruling/governing bodies in certain areas can appear as very aloof and self-important and this turns people off.

Getting anyone to renew membership or take membership out is a sales exercise and a reactive reminder slip doesnt make your target audience feel warm and loved-up inside. In my experience the process of getting new members and getting renewals is a very reactive tell-sell process. Small changes to this process could IMO reap dividends by using a proactive and listen-sell approach.

Where should I send my invoice for sales seminar 1-0-1?

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Past; E39 540T/E46 328CI/ E39 535/ E39 520/ E36 M3/ E36 318iS jet black Mtech/ E46 320d/ E36 318iS diamond black/ E36 318iS blue Mtech kit


Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 18:10

well guys sorry if i offended anyone or they took my comments the wrong way just a outspoken person

so a wee joke to cheer us all up.................

Friend of mine went to the doctors on friday,

said to the doctor "I think there's something wrong with my you know what"  doctor tells him to unzip his pants so he can have a look. 

doctor says jesus your bits are covered in liquorice and coconut, What the hell have you been up to man!!?

My friend replies........ "allsorts"

I thank you, I thank you..... don't all laugh at once.

 



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Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 18:43
This forum is definitely one of the best ones I frequent. The level of moderation may be higher than others, but the result of that is a much nicer and more pleasant atmosphere, with disagreements or arguments diffused before they get really nasty - surely this is only a good thing? I've never found the moderation intrusive, I support it wholeheartedly. For an example of a forum without moderation, have a look at barryboys - chaos and sheer spitefulness rule there, not a pleasant place to visit.

As for club membership, mine has simply been allowed to lapse. I moved home several times, I think the year has expired, I'm not sure who to contact about renewing it - I don't even know my membership number. I found being a member very beneficial with parts discounts etc, and also the very good magazines. I'll definitely renew when I'm settled and have a permanent address, hopefully in the next couple of weeks.


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Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 18:52

Redguy wrote :- The origin of the topic was to find out why members (or, to be exact, ex-members) had let there membership expire.

Hmm using what happend to me as a point, ref to this. thread

just found this

 KB wrote :- Your post was edited because of what it said in it. (What you said was a lot worse than what the other member said.)
Anyhow, I thought you have gotten over this.

I rest my case your honour!!!!



Posted By: m3tiko
Date Posted: 19-March-2006 at 19:17
Ack...lads let this one slip, gone but remember never forgotten

AS to membership...I have had no benefits whatsoever resulting in joining, but thats life I'm still here and plan too.

And theres always Gaydon where you meet and greet all the people from here

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Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 20-March-2006 at 09:17

Originally posted by m3tiko m3tiko wrote:


AS to membership...I have had no benefits whatsoever resulting in joining, but thats life I'm still here and plan too.  

 

So you don`t get your mags in post then?

 

And did you not only join in 2005 cause that was the only way you could get to Gaydon?

 

Not very fair saying you get no benefit`s,as they are all there if needed



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E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv
E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets

Current:
116i Sport F20


Posted By: nero
Date Posted: 20-March-2006 at 09:40

Originally posted by m3tiko m3tiko wrote:

AS to membership...I have had no benefits whatsoever resulting in joining, but thats life I'm still here and plan too.

....and what about all the monthly meets and car shows you attend? There is quite a bit of work goes on in the background by your local committee to organize these



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Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 20-March-2006 at 10:36
dont shoot the guy down he is only saying what he feels

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Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 20-March-2006 at 11:01
See what i mean dazz, if it isnt what they want to hear they shoot you down, i think M3tiko is entitled to express his opinion if that's what he feels, this is maybe the attitude why people are leaving the club, im not part of the club and i dont want to be as there is no benefits for me in it... wait for it ten paces and draw your guns no one said that the people who organize events etc dont work hard i think it is comendable that you give up your time for others, but after all this is the forum and everyone is entitled to there opinion weither its what people want to hear or not, have you ever wonderd that he might not recieve his mags, or not see this as a benefit, as for events if they are solely for club members then it is obviously a benefit to be a member, if they are open to joe public then thats not a benefit.


Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 20-March-2006 at 11:14
Originally posted by bmwcrazy bmwcrazy wrote:

dont shoot the guy down he is only saying what he feels


I don't think nero shot anyone down. He (IMO) merely provided a rebuttal to what was said.

Originally posted by dirtybeemer dirtybeemer wrote:

See what i mean dazz, if it isnt what they want to hear they shoot you down, i think M3tiko is entitled to express his opinion if that's what he feels, this is maybe the attitude why people are leaving the club, im not part of the club and i dont want to be as there is no benefits for me in it... wait for it ten paces and draw your guns


M3tiko did express his opinion and his opinion has not been censured in any way.


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Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE
1997 E39 523i
2003 E39 525i Sport Individual


Posted By: bmwcrazy
Date Posted: 20-March-2006 at 11:17
kb u are a fair man but i see it different

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Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 20-March-2006 at 11:25

Originally posted by dirtybeemer dirtybeemer wrote:

See what i mean dazz, if it isnt what they want to hear they shoot you down, i think M3tiko is entitled to express his opinion if that's what he feels, this is maybe the attitude why people are leaving the club, im not part of the club and i dont want to be as there is no benefits for me in it... wait for it ten paces and draw your guns

I think they responded in they way they did because a lot of people put a lot of time and effort into things like the club magazine, organising events and negotiating discounts. So it's not really fair to say you get no benefits from being a club member. Perhaps it would be truer to say that the benefits on offer for being a member don't appeal to you. 



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Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 20-March-2006 at 11:45

Peter wrote :- I think they responded in they way they did because a lot of people put a lot of time and effort into things like the club magazine,

he didnt say anything about this, and i think the people who give up there time for other people, ought to be commended 

organising events and negotiating discounts. So it's not really fair to say you get no benefits from being a club member. 

Thats if you get them i have read on here that someone went to a dealership and told them he was a club member, and the responce he got was yeah so what and had to pay full whack for his parts, have you thought this might have happend to M3tiko ?

Perhaps it would be truer to say that the benefits on offer for being a member don't appeal to you.

To true maybe he should have said that, but he didnt he said what he felt, and got jumped on basically for saying what he felt, that to me is not having your own opinion, and seems to be happening a lot on here hence "if it isnt what they want you to hear they shoot you down"     Rant over!!

How are you anyway peter, have not spoke to you for a while where have you been hiding, has the misses pass her test yet ? 



Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 20-March-2006 at 12:06

No failed it again on Friday. I have a few concerns about her driving instructor, in that I think he's rubbish. If she fails next time I'm going to suggest she gets a new one.

Other than that I'm ok!

I've been having fun with My Acord Type-R recently which has kept me away from my computer a bit, at least it the weekend anyway. My internet connection has not been very good recently either.

I hit a brick on Saturday which caused my tyre to go down, supprise supprise. Thankfully that was the only damage done. Anyway pulled over to change the wheel in a layby. However when I went to remove the locking wheel nut it broke. So rather than leave the car where it was I drove home on a flat tyre. Fortunatly it happened about 2 miles from home so I just kept it down to 20mph and got home without damaging the alloy. next day I got some more locking nuts from Halfords only to find they are too big so get tit the way of the wheel centre cap. On top of this I couldn't get the knackered nut off no matter what I did so I ended up calling the AA out who did the job. Managed to get some locking nuts today off ebay that will fit ok (didn't want to get standard Honda ones again as they're rubbish) and I'm getting 4 new tyres on Saturday, since I have Falken and a Champiro on the back and now just one Vredenstien on the front. Rather than get another Vredenstein I thought I just get 4 Toyo T1Rs. Should improve the handling no end.

So yes despite lots of fun I'm good! How about you?

 



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Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 20-March-2006 at 14:43
What was the original purpose of the question Pete? I'm interested to know.

I'll also make sure to renew my membership in the next couple of weeks.


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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 21-March-2006 at 05:52
FOr the ons that haven't renewed, what do you want from a club/ foum ?

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Posted By: m3tiko
Date Posted: 21-March-2006 at 07:41
Cheers KB,

I wanted to clarify a few points I made in my thread, first of all in no way was I suggesting that being a member wsn't a good thing merely it didn't offer me the full benefits associated i.e part and indy discounts...

The mag is great and pretty informative, as well as the lovely meets that are organised by our members. IMO a great reason to join is because of the people. If you read the thread you'd see that I'm happy to give the annual membership for the benefits I do see...just maybe not to the extent others get but no complaints on my part.

Rested.

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Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 21-March-2006 at 09:29

Originally posted by m3tiko m3tiko wrote:

Cheers KB,

I wanted to clarify a few points I made in my thread, first of all in no way was I suggesting that being a member wsn't a good thing merely it didn't offer me the full benefits associated i.e part and indy discounts...

The mag is great and pretty informative, as well as the lovely meets that are organised by our members. IMO a great reason to join is because of the people. If you read the thread you'd see that I'm happy to give the annual membership for the benefits I do see...just maybe not to the extent others get but no complaints on my part.

Rested.

 

Better put



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E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv
E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets

Current:
116i Sport F20


Posted By: dirtybeemer
Date Posted: 21-March-2006 at 09:54

see better know it has all come out in the wash, people are to hastie to act when people have not made themselves clear, and got the right points across instead of asking for a explanation of why, and also i think we can learn as i certainly have from this post, to post properly to get the right message across, as i admit that some of my post's have been taken the wrong way which i appologise for, perhaps i didnt make them clear enough for some.

again i think this forum is spot on the way it is, ill admit there are a few that are t**s, maybe you think im one ? but i will rise above this in the future.



Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 21-March-2006 at 10:17
Well there's a wee tidy of the thread to get us back on topic.

I didn't renew a while back as I'd sold the car - seemed a bit silly to be a member sans BMW.

I renewed because :

1) The region I'm in is chock full of top people and there are plenty of wee outings.
2) I can get a few pennies off at some dealers and it more than covers the member fee. (as well as all the other discount opportunities)
3) The mag has some good content (and is now monthly)
4) Being a member can help when dealing with parts of the larger BMW machine - I've had great help from BMW CS and Mobile Tradition while working up the GT Register content.

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Posted By: Fushion Julz
Date Posted: 21-March-2006 at 11:50
Sorry if this is a late reply, but I've only just popped into this forum, usually spending my time on the M Power section...

I was a member for several years in the '90s, when it was a requirement to race in the BMWCC championship (as it was)...Then I let my membership lapse, despite owning several successive BMWs.

I re-joined last year partly because of this forum, partly because I now own 2 E30s and partly because I wanted to go to Gaydon....

Of the benefits offered/provided I find the area section for my area very poor (Wessex)...Not least as the area really isn't my area...I live in Reading and the Lodon/SE area is a better match for me. There also seem to be few (if any) Wessex meets.
The mags are good value...although I would love to see more articles on older models...

Bit disappointed in the registers (now a memeber of the E30 and the M Power registers) as I was previously a 02 register member and they produced a very useful and informative bi-monthly mag/leaflet. The E30/M Power registers seem to do little other than organise a stand at Gaydon...There doesn't even seem to be a published register of the cars!

The big disappointment, though, for me, was/is the dealer discount. My local dealer (Cooper, Reading) don't offer it at all. So I voted with my feet (and wallet) and now frequent Stratstone, Taplow, where they do offer a discount...Only it has never (yet) been as much as 10%.

The big hit was Gaydon...I thought it was a well organised and beneficial day and my g/f actually (for the first time for a motor-related outing) enjoyed herself!

I'm gonna continue being a memeber (for now)...All in all the membership fee is good value at the current level.




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1996 E36 328i SE 4dr (Manual)
1992 E34 525iX Touring...SOLD


Posted By: bodger122
Date Posted: 22-March-2006 at 04:05
Originally posted by Fushion Julz Fushion Julz wrote:



Of the benefits offered/provided I find the area section for my area very poor (Wessex)...Not least as the area really isn't my area...I live in Reading and the Lodon/SE area is a better match for me. There also seem to be few (if any) Wessex meets.


Agreed, im down in southampton, and there is nothing going on in my area, the nearest is is swindon or kent (both miles away).


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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 22-March-2006 at 04:19
@ bodger122 & Fushion Julz

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, the Scottish region was a bit quiet too. A number of folk stepped up and got involved and now it's thriving.

Is this something you'd consider - i.e. getting things going in your area? Scotland started out by reinstating a regular pub meet and built up from there.

I originally felt that 'the club' should be doing more... but 'the club' is just folk like us really. I reckon I actually get more out of membership by getting stuck in now wherever I can.

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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 22-March-2006 at 05:08
That also applies to the irish Region!

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Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE
1997 E39 523i
2003 E39 525i Sport Individual


Posted By: bodger122
Date Posted: 22-March-2006 at 06:39
Originally posted by Webdunk Webdunk wrote:

@ bodger122 & Fushion Julz

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, the Scottish region was a bit quiet too. A number of folk stepped up and got involved and now it's thriving.

Is this something you'd consider - i.e. getting things going in your area? Scotland started out by reinstating a regular pub meet and built up from there.

I originally felt that 'the club' should be doing more... but 'the club' is just folk like us really. I reckon I actually get more out of membership by getting stuck in now wherever I can.


Good point, i also think the local dealers should get involved more. BMW customers are notoriously brand loyal. surely any dealer would love to attract a whole host of repeat customers to his site.


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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 22-March-2006 at 06:50
Originally posted by bodger122 bodger122 wrote:

Good point, i also think the local dealers should get involved more. BMW customers are notoriously brand loyal. surely any dealer would love to attract a whole host of repeat customers to his site.


Defo. It's hard getting to talk to the right people tho. If you look thro the club mag there are some dealers who are hugely supportive and others who barely know the club exist. We've started a good relationship with one dealer up here, but the original franchise holder is selling up so we don't know what's happening there going forward. Also trying to sort a dealer visit to another to see if we can't start building a relationship...

Main Club Office type interface with the Dealers seems limited too as they're not 'BMW' as such. AFAIK Jeff only gets to go to one dealer principal meeting a year... but mibbes that's changed / changing - I'm only just getting back into the club scene at the mo.

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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 22-March-2006 at 07:00
IMO many dealers can't (here) see past the next sale and the fact that many of the clubs members are driving cars older than 5 years means that they won't be buying a new E90 or E60 or whatever.

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Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE
1997 E39 523i
2003 E39 525i Sport Individual


Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 22-March-2006 at 07:12
But we still have to buy parts, and I'd rather buy genuine BMW parts from a BMW dealer than from GSF or ECP. However the availability of parts online, plus the cheaper price often means I buy online, also to avoid getting sneered at when I go to a dealer asking for e28 parts (it has happened). Any dealer who aligns themselves with the club can only increase their business.

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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 22-March-2006 at 08:10
Originally posted by Doive Doive wrote:

Any dealer who aligns themselves with the club can only increase their business.


That's a major part of what we're going to try and get across...

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Posted By: steven.seed
Date Posted: 22-March-2006 at 08:45

Originally posted by kbannon kbannon wrote:

IMO many dealers can't (here) see past the next sale and the fact that many of the clubs members are driving cars older than 5 years means that they won't be buying a new E90 or E60 or whatever.

I agree totally, the general attitude of dealers is if your car is not under the original warranty they have very little interest but they should remember that without those of us to buy the older BMW's there would be no new sales.



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1989 E30 318i. Coupe
2000 E39 520i Touring




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