prob a silly question
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Topic: prob a silly question
Posted By: e46fan
Subject: prob a silly question
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 09:31
can the 316i badge be removed easily from the boot on my e46?
if so whats the best way to remove it.
i dont want everyone knowing that my car is the slowest of the 3series![](smileys/Embarrassed.gif)
thanks people!!
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Posted By: fozzymandeus
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 09:36
if you debadge, everyone will think you have a 316i anyway.
may as well be proud of the fact that you have a perfectly nice car! ![](smileys/Approve.gif)
but you need something to dissolve the glue that won't eat the lacquer as well.
Now where can I find a nice Alpina B8 to badge as a 318i... ![](smileys/biggrin.gif)
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Posted By: stephenperry
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 09:37
remove the badges with hot (but not boiling) water, they're just held on with adhesive
clean off the residue with a little bit of t-cut then polish
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2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto
1983 Ford Sierra XR4i
2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118
1999 BMW 323Ci
1995 BMW 318i SE
1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS
1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX
1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX
1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL
1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly
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Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 09:53
Use dental floss and saw between the badge and bood lid, then use WD40 to get the goo off. Done it on an Audi before with perfect results.
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Posted By: h3lter
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 09:57
with a hair dryer, worked very well for me in past on one of my other cars (not saying what it was :D) then as stephen ses, tcut and polish after!
h3
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325 cab 1995
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Posted By: e46fan
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 10:00
fozzymandeus wrote:
if you debadge, everyone will think you have a 316i anyway.
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but wont they know for definate if i leave the badges on???![](smileys/biggrin1.gif)
thanks guys, must get out the t-cut now!!
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Posted By: Chas C
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 10:12
I agree with the hairdryer technique, or apply a flat hot iron to the badge. This warms the adhesive sufficiently to loosen it up.
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Posted By: HCZ 22
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 10:21
If you're not proud of what you've got change it. Nothing worse than seeing what was a tidy if a little plain 316i tarted up with cheap ///M bits so that it's nothing but a cheap looking hooker.
Wear you're 316i badge loud and proud. We've all been there...
------------- 330CiA ///M Sport
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Posted By: h3lter
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 10:24
i feel all bad now! cus my 325cab has an M3 badge on it but i never put it on there :'(
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325 cab 1995
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Posted By: e46fan
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 11:27
im not planning on sticking stupid boy racer bits on it,
just want a clean lookin car without a piddly little badge to ruin the look of the car
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Posted By: Chas C
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 12:18
Nothing wrong with debadging a car.
But it's a cardinal sin to pretent it's something that it isn't. If you have lots of //M styling parts then feel free to stick on an //M badge if you want but don't add the 3 at the end of it.
And anyone who mixes //M badges with Alpina, ASC or Hartge badges should be prosecuted. ![](smileys/biggrin1.gif)
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Posted By: e46fan
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 12:33
i wouldnt dream of putting on a different badge on the car,
i just want a clean boot door thats all.
removing the badge and fitting a new air freshener will be the only mods on the car.
i agree theres nothing worse than seeing a nice car ruined by loads of stupid stickers and badges an the like!!!
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Posted By: steven.seed
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 18:09
Chas C wrote:
Nothing wrong with debadging a car.
But it's a cardinal sin to pretent it's something that it isn't. If you have lots of //M styling parts then feel free to stick on an //M badge if you want but don't add the 3 at the end of it.
And anyone who mixes //M badges with Alpina, ASC or Hartge badges should be prosecuted. ![](smileys/biggrin1.gif)
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I agree, I have a 318is saloon that came factory fitted when new with //M side skirts,rear spoiler,rubbing strips, steering wheel, gear stick, 1/2 leather sports interior, sports suspension etc, etc,etc and it has an //M on the boot but no 3. I've thought about taking it off and buying a 318iS badge to go on but then thought why. I believe its acceptable but I think a lot of people don't. The only modification the car has had is a panel filter so its hardly pretending to be something it isn't.
------------- 1998 E36 318iS Saloon
1989 E30 318i. Coupe
2000 E39 520i Touring
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Posted By: m3tiko
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 18:16
That reminds me of wee neds who would casually drive along in their 1.3 escorts rebadged as a XR3i or the more courageous with a RS turbo decal...Was so funny when they'd try to outpace you.
I can understand you wanting to take off your badge...like myself but i'm just too lazy.
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335d evolve 354bhp/742nm....M3 SEE YA!!
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Posted By: stephenperry
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 18:19
i heard many years ago before i got into bms that you were 'allowed' to have a simple ///M badge fitted as an option by the factory if you went for the optional m-tec bits like suspension or bodykit
i don't know how true this is, but it sounds plausible?
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2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto
1983 Ford Sierra XR4i
2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118
1999 BMW 323Ci
1995 BMW 318i SE
1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS
1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX
1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX
1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL
1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly
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Posted By: steven.seed
Date Posted: 27-February-2006 at 18:24
@ Tiko,
Excuse me as I'm just an uneducated sassenach( is this spelt correctly) Mancunian but what are these wee neds I keep hearing about.
------------- 1998 E36 318iS Saloon
1989 E30 318i. Coupe
2000 E39 520i Touring
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Posted By: pma1ums
Date Posted: 28-February-2006 at 04:02
stephenperry wrote:
i heard many years ago before i got into bms that you were 'allowed' to have a simple ///M badge fitted as an option by the factory if you went for the optional m-tec bits like suspension or bodykit
i don't know how true this is, but it sounds plausible?
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sounds about right to me aswell
iam sure ive non M3 cars on the docks where bmw import cars .with just an M badge on it but with all m-tec skirts/shocks sport packs etc etc
as for taking badges off .well id take the M3 badge of my genuine M3 and replace it with a 318 badge;if i had too![](smileys/biggrin.gif)
but everyone to there own![](smileys/Arms Out.gif)
------------- its a dogs world out there
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Posted By: HCZ 22
Date Posted: 28-February-2006 at 05:07
Hi e46fan and other readers of this thread
I'm feeling a bit bad now about starting this thread about you wanting to de badge your car.
On reflection in my view it would be fine to remove your 316i badge if that's all your doing. After all my last car a E46 328Ci was debadged too. But I assume if you had that you'd keep the badge on.
As for the ///M badge, I'm not so sure. Yes to the Enthusiast it's probably fine to show you've genuine ///M bits but you'll probably get some 'stick' from your friends who might think you're trying to make it like an M3. By the time you explain your self your friends will think your just trying to defend your self.
------------- 330CiA ///M Sport
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Posted By: h3lter
Date Posted: 28-February-2006 at 05:10
mine is an M badge not an m3 badge! but i didnt put it there!!!! im gonna cry
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325 cab 1995
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Posted By: HCZ 22
Date Posted: 28-February-2006 at 05:20
h3lter wrote:
mine is an M badge not an m3 badge! but i didnt put it there!!!! im gonna cry |
My point exactly. We're all enthusiasts here and we've debated if the badge is OK. The general concensus seems to be that it's OK. However, you still seem to feel the need to expalin why the badge is there and that it's not an ///M3 badge. You're obviously a bit concerned about the badge and what it says about your car.
My view is that a 325 cab is a great car, why does it need any other badge. In fact it might even take away from the car.
------------- 330CiA ///M Sport
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Posted By: h3lter
Date Posted: 28-February-2006 at 05:29
can u get 325i badges? i might rip it off and put 325 on
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325 cab 1995
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Posted By: steven.seed
Date Posted: 28-February-2006 at 05:35
HCZ 22 wrote:
As for the ///M badge, I'm not so sure. Yes to the Enthusiast it's probably fine to show you've genuine ///M bits but you'll probably get some 'stick' from your friends who might think you're trying to make it like an M3. By the time you explain your self your friends will think your just trying to defend your self.
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Well I'm 53 years old so I think I can cope with stick but what I don't want is people looking down their nose at me thinking I drive a cheap hooker of a BMW when all the extra's are perfectly legitimate fitted by BMW items. The 318iS saloon is a fairly rare version of the E36 so if I were to put a 318iS badge on it would everybody think I was trying to make a 318i look like a 318iS as everyone associates the 318iS as being a coupe. ![bigcry](http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/smileys/bigcry.gif)
Perhaps I should get toyota corrolla no one ever looks at them By the way what does a corrolla look like?![biglaugh](http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/smileys/biglaugh.gif)
------------- 1998 E36 318iS Saloon
1989 E30 318i. Coupe
2000 E39 520i Touring
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Posted By: HCZ 22
Date Posted: 28-February-2006 at 05:38
H3lter
If you're feeling the need to explain about the badge here, how much more might you have to explain to the Golf GTI, MR2 or RS turbo driver that might be behind you at the lights.
Hey honestly I'm not trying to make it like an ///M3 I didn't put the badge there.....
Your local dealer should be able to get you the original badge, or even take a leaf out of the owner of this thread and debadge it, or would you be afraid people might think it's only a 318 cab?
------------- 330CiA ///M Sport
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Posted By: HCZ 22
Date Posted: 28-February-2006 at 05:42
[/QUOTE]
The 318iS saloon is a fairly rare version of the E36 so if I were to put a 318iS badge on it would everybody think I was trying to make a 318i look like a 318iS as everyone associates the 318iS as being a coupe. ![bigcry](http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/smileys/bigcry.gif)
[/QUOTE]
If it's a 318is then if it's going to be badged put a 318is badge on it.
You're right, it is a rare model.
------------- 330CiA ///M Sport
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Posted By: h3lter
Date Posted: 28-February-2006 at 06:01
hmmmm
im goin to look at it later!
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325 cab 1995
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Posted By: redguy
Date Posted: 28-February-2006 at 07:16
My 318iS saloon (still waiting for the E90) has a 318iS badge on the back.
I don't think that anybody has ever commented on the coupe/saloon
question, as most people are unaware of what most badging represents.
Regarding the original thread, I really prefer the cars as they are
made. If the come with a few M extras (as our iS saloons) then fine. As
for debadging, I'm not so sure. As one of the previous comments
suggested, everytime I see a debadged BM I also assume that it's
probably a 316.
Nothing wrong with a 316 - keep it original - it's still a BMW!![Big Smile](smileys/Big%20Smile.gif) ![Big Smile](smileys/Big%20Smile.gif)
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Posted By: stephenperry
Date Posted: 28-February-2006 at 09:04
you can at least get an idea what the engine capacity might be by the number of tailpipes (1 for 4-cyl, 2 for 6-cyl)... unless its got an aftermarket backbox of course
would you believe that debadging is a factory option? neither my e46 or e36 had model inscriptions on their bootlids and i think they looked better for it - i had thought about debadging the alpina but that would be the kiss of death to a car which everyone sees as just another 5-series anyway ![](smileys/Angry.gif)
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2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto
1983 Ford Sierra XR4i
2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118
1999 BMW 323Ci
1995 BMW 318i SE
1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS
1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX
1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX
1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL
1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly
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Posted By: calv_328i
Date Posted: 28-February-2006 at 13:33
My mate has a 318 Compact Sport Dakar which I believe came as standard with the //M badge. There are a lot of M3-a-likes round our way (its essex after all). What I find more criminal is the genuine E36 M3 i saw in our local multistory with all the chav stickers, fake alloy fuel filler cover, LEDs in the washers etc.
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Posted By: steven.seed
Date Posted: 28-February-2006 at 18:47
redguy wrote:
My 318iS saloon (still waiting for the E90) has a 318iS badge on the back.
| And counting the hours hey Red. Don't forget the pics when it comes. Steve.
------------- 1998 E36 318iS Saloon
1989 E30 318i. Coupe
2000 E39 520i Touring
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Posted By: Aidan316i
Date Posted: 28-February-2006 at 19:03
My dad has a 316i which I'll be debaging (soon) but I'd love to see the looks on some peoples faces once they see they've been overtaken by a 316i! ![](smileys/biglaugh.gif)
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E46 316i Saloon
E36 323i Touring
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Posted By: Gordie
Date Posted: 01-March-2006 at 04:45
I left the badges on my 120d so that nobody would think it was a 118d. ![](smileys/biggrinbounce2.gif)
------------- 120d Sport in Monaco Blue
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Posted By: h3lter
Date Posted: 01-March-2006 at 05:40
well its either take off the M badge that the bloke put on before and leave it blank, put a 325 badge on, or leave it as it is? might start a poll lol!
takin the badge off people will think its a 1.8 tho and ill get all the little divs in thier saxo vtr's tryin to race lol! mind u i get all them anyway! lol
h3
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325 cab 1995
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Posted By: jamsieboi
Date Posted: 01-March-2006 at 12:28
slightly off the subject
my car is a 325 ci coupe with sport kit ( allegedly from new?) my question is on my log book it says its a 325ci se but according to BMW the SE did not come out until 2003. anybody have any ideas.
also when trying to insure it as it had private plates on before i have to tell them the car make and model and this causes confusion as i cant say its an SE as that model did not exist in 2001. i am also stating on my policy that the sport kit is a modification when technically its not.
any advice welcome.
cheers
p.s thinking of badging it a 316 an telling my insurance company thats what it is . worth a shot![](smileys/biggrinbounce2.gif)
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Posted By: scarface
Date Posted: 01-March-2006 at 14:47
Jamesieboi: It's not the standard factory sport kit unfortunately, but it is a proper BMW kit, they call it the 'Aerodynamic Package'. Technically it's a mod, but if you tell them it's a BMW accessory fitted by BMW they should go easy on you. I thought that all Cis were SE as standard.
With regards to the M badge issue I think the most acceptable thing to do is to have the M badge AND the car model badge. I was tempted to do this with my 328 which had Alpina suspension. There's no way I would have put an Alpina badge on without the 328i though. ![](smileys/nono.gif)
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Posted By: HCZ 22
Date Posted: 01-March-2006 at 16:55
jamsieboi wrote:
slightly off the subject
my car is a 325 ci coupe with sport kit ( allegedly from new?) my question is on my log book it says its a 325ci se but according to BMW the SE did not come out until 2003. anybody have any ideas.
also when trying to insure it as it had private plates on before i have to tell them the car make and model and this causes confusion as i cant say its an SE as that model did not exist in 2001. i am also stating on my policy that the sport kit is a modification when technically its not.
any advice welcome.
cheers
p.s thinking of badging it a 316 an telling my insurance company thats what it is . worth a shot![](smileys/biggrinbounce2.gif)
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I have to agree with scraface.
I had a 2000 328Ci SE until last month. I had the AC Schnitzer front splitter, rear spoiler and sport skirts and 18" rims.
Anyway, it was an SE, I think all coupes were at least the 325 & 328 & 330 Ci's were all either sport or SE models. And yes yours was fitted with the aerodynamic package (sport bumbers front & rear and sport skirts). Still a current option in the 3 series accessory catalogue.
------------- 330CiA ///M Sport
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Posted By: stephenperry
Date Posted: 01-March-2006 at 17:02
the e46 323ci and 328ci were not designated sport or se, only the 325ci and 330ci were deemed such
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2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto
1983 Ford Sierra XR4i
2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118
1999 BMW 323Ci
1995 BMW 318i SE
1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS
1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX
1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX
1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL
1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly
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Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 01-March-2006 at 18:11
I say -
If you want people to think you have an
M3
them buy one in the first place!
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------------- Cats know your every thought.
But don't care.
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Posted By: stephenperry
Date Posted: 01-March-2006 at 18:20
or for maximum confusion potential amongst the chav-worthy buy an m5 and badge it as an m3.... cue 360 degree burbury baseball cap rotation... have you ever seen The Exorcist? ![](smileys/biglaugh.gif)
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2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto
1983 Ford Sierra XR4i
2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118
1999 BMW 323Ci
1995 BMW 318i SE
1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS
1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX
1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX
1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL
1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly
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Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 01-March-2006 at 18:28
OR ..........
stephenperry wrote:
for maximum confusion potential amongst the chav-worthy buy an m5/m3 |
debadge it and put the diesel pointly-down tail-pipes on it!
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------------- Cats know your every thought.
But don't care.
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