Check this out - this looks like it will affect most of us, especially all the track day boys...    

The DVLA are a useless bunch of idiots and every single employee deserves to be taken out into the street and kicked to death.

Every single one of my experiences with them has been bad.

This si just typical of the kind of cr*p they come up with.

I wonder how much this 'super' MOT test will cost?

Possibley a new way of generating revenue. Taxing modifed cars .

doive, can you post up how and where on thire website you can vent your spleen to them?

I reckon between us, and PH'ers, and the rice rocket brigade we can crash out the site with complaints.

Really angry!!!!!    

Doive wrote: Has anyone ever used their 'new' interactive phone line? It really is the most infuriating creation yet by mortal man. It says helpfully on the website 'you can use our phone line to renew x, y and z' but yet when you get on there it takes you around in a sequence of ever maddening recorded messages, when all you want to do is speak to someone.

I've had the misfortune to have to use it on more than one occasion and I agree. You go through about 50 different options only to end up with a repeating recorded message. To actually get through to a person I had to go through the disabled driver option. It really does take the pi$$.

Like I said, kicked to death, the lot of them.

nero wrote: I maybe wrong, but wasn't this article first published on 1st April

I don't think it's an April fool although I could be wrong.

I'd heard rumblings about this before.

if only Doive if only ,what are they going to hit us with next?

The DVLA are awful, I have to deal with them often !

This "plan" isn't as stupid as it first seems, although it will of course catch some of you.

When people modify cars that a company has spent millions of pounds developing, how do we know its safe ?

Suspension changes, ride height, wheels etc etc, who has done the calculations on stresses etc ?

How many people actually tell their insurance companies ?

One of my neighbours kids was killed last year, and the mods he had done played a part ( although not all the problem), in the accident that led to his and his friends death.

Think about "why" this is being considered, then come up with alternatives.

How many deaths on the road are a result of modifications?

Not that many I bet.

It sounds more like some idiot has decided without any eveidence that if people modify ther cars it must be dangerous so we need to stop it.

I will be that it is based on very little evidence that modifactions make cars more dangerous.

I can believe the "service it" could become a problem, rather like in Italy.

I'm not supporting this stuff, but it does need to be looked at.

You want your car and other cars to be safe.

As for how many deaths due to modifcations I've no idea, I know it is thought to have contributed to my mates sons death ( wheels).

I think if you modify your car it should at least be checked once, perhaps not every year, but how could you object to once ?

well u cant use a mobile phone but u can fit dvd players use sat nav

rules dont make any sense time too move back to canada

what has become of this once great place we call the united kingdom? 

There is no rule to say you can't use a mobile phone.

If you are doing anything that interferes with your driving, you can be charged with driving without due care and attention, this isn't new, and has been the case for many years.

yes nigel i know this. my point is u can not hold a mobile but u can still talk watch dvds all that stuff rules are made to be broken and not many people are charged with above offence ,

so now that the smoking bans out the way lets hit the drivers its all about money greed punish the working man

well thats my 10 pence shoot me down know i can take it

  long live

the modified !

I'm with you Dazz, but occasionaly they do come up with a good rule, not often I agree.

It is an area that could do with looking at, again it will only be the few that spoil things, but think about it, you've modified your car in whatever way you want, its been passed by an official, you know its safe, your insurers know its safe, who loses ?

i agree mate fully modifi but be safe we all take pride in our cars

lets not take this away as well hopefully we can all meet in the middle

Peter Fenwick wrote: .....This is just typical of the kind of cr*p they come up with. I wonder how much this 'super' MOT test will cost? Possibly a new way of generating revenue. Taxing modifed cars .

On the other hand, it may take some of the chav element off the roads

But the "super MoT" is similar in spirit to some of the motoring laws on the Continent, which prevent - or at least severely restrict - modifications, particularly on older cars. One past subscriber to this Forum ("cisco" from Italy) has pointed out that, in Italy, he is not allowed to fit other than the wheels originally specified for his car - so you're doomed if your car was originally on metrics

Doive wrote: Has anyone ever used their 'new' interactive phone line?.....

You need the ordinary landline number - get it from http://www.saynoto0870.com - this helpful site

Sorry I’m not trying to be awkward here but .....

Why is it OK to slag off a government departments, who according to the article (1^st April or not) are considering this brainchild of the British Police, so its not even DVLAs idea*, but not BMW dealerships, who are in some cases guilty of shoddy workmanship – see various other threads?

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* ... and its not government departments who make laws such as this it’s the government of the day.  Government departments implement the law as directed by Parliament.

Yes I do work for a government department but not this one and it pi55e5 me off that government departments get the blame for Parliaments’ decisions – just the bad ones; Parliament (the Government of the day) take the credit should there be any good ones!

Yes I think its wrong that DVLAs telephone system is crap.

I've checked the DVLA website and there appears to be no consultation on this subject.  That’s not to say such a scheme is not being considered.

I would suggest anyone concerned that discussions on this subject are taking place make a request under the Freedom of Information Act. 

Details of how this can be done and what you can expect as a response can be found at http://www.dvla.gov.uk/foi.htm - http://www.dvla.gov.uk/foi.htm . 

Something along the lines of 'I would be grateful if, through the FoI, you would provide me with details of consultations, correspondence, reports, records of meetings etc. that DVLA hold relating to changes or proposed changes to the current Laws and/or Regulations affecting modified or modifying road cars during the last 2 years.’

I would suggest that if something is being considered then what is provided through FoI could be quite valuable in the defence of what you enjoy doing.

Hope this helps.

In response to Nostrils out pouring then if the MOT tester failed ANY car for not having an e number on a lamp or such then the tester would be bang out of order.

The only lamp he has to check for an e number is a wrapround indicator to see if it is acceptable instead of having a side repeater as well.

Again another piece of c*** issued by a so called professional tester!

When you have seen some of the so called mods by the boys with £2 cars and £500 stereos then you too would endorse a system where the quality of the modification is checked.

Germany only allow TUV approved accessories but in dear old blighty you can stick any sh*te to your car and it is not checked, unless it infringes a legal requirement.

Ive always been into modding and I think there needs to be a geater check on modified goods being sold as alot of goods are very poor quality. One make of alloy wheels being sold were known to be very fragile and hitting a small pothole could (and often would) crack them.

I dont think super mots are in order but a clampdown on the quality of goods being released on the UK market.

A big area to cover here, according to original suggestion I would be unable to remove the metrics on my 735 in favour of  the bbs set, not would I be able to fit the wooden steering wheel sat in garage.

That would be silly, but I can see safety issues with altered suspension or brakes, and I know someone who's modded car was stolen and bricked it because mods were'nt declared to insurers - crazy!

As for DVLA automated phone line, I had a query on disabled regulations and I gave up after being diverted round in circles for half an hour.

Nigel wrote: If you are doing anything that interferes with your driving, you can be charged with driving without due care and attention, this isn't new, and has been the case for many years.

And does this inc the like's of looking down to change cass, cd, radio station, clock, turn the heater off/on ect ect ect. or maybe while driving you say "oh did I bring such n such?"....so you glance to the pass seat then round to the back seat....so in that split sec....bang...

Like most of you said (and quite right) it's just another way of getting even more money of the allready well pi55ed off motorist....

Just what the h  e ll is this country all about!!!!!