Scottish Track Day
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Printed Date: 17-May-2024 at 21:35
Topic: Scottish Track Day
Posted By: Webdunk
Subject: Scottish Track Day
Date Posted: 19-August-2003 at 10:04
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25th October will be the final track day of the year @ Crail.
http://www.newtongrove.demon.co.uk/bmwcc/meets/2003/aug/ - August | http://www.newtongrove.demon.co.uk/bmwcc/meets/2003/may/crail.html - May | http://www.newtongrove.demon.co.uk/bmwcc/meets/2003/mar/crail.html - March Remember, this is as much a social event as it is a driving one, so even if you're not going on track, come on over and say hello. It's also open to all regions and registers. Further details will be posted soon on the http://www.newtongrove.demon.co.uk/bmwcc - website . Get in touch with http://www.newtongrove.demon.co.uk/bmwcc/c.html - James in the meantime if you're interested. ------------- 
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Posted By: M BLUR
Date Posted: 25-August-2003 at 13:06
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Hi Webdunk, If I've got the wheels (which I hope to pick up in 2 weeks) then count me there.. Speak soon. Jon ------------- www.lbmracing.com 
1998 Zeemax M Roadster 2005 X5 3.0D Sport 1991 Esprit SE Race car |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 25-August-2003 at 13:23
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Excellent, hope to see you there.
Please get in touch with James as per - http://www.newtongrove.demon.co.uk/bmwcc/crail_oct03.html - http://www.newtongrove.demon.co.uk/bmwcc/crail_oct03.html to book your place. -------------
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 14-October-2003 at 09:25
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We still need another 2 bodies for the day to go ahead. If you're interested, please get in touch with James. -------------
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Posted By: sailorbaz
Date Posted: 14-October-2003 at 18:47
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Aye come on Jon, Get that Z3 on the track and give it a decent thrash. I'm going up with the latest M3 to give a wee bit of 'controlled' (Hopefully) sideways action. Just hope it stays dry. But Duncan's right, we need another 2 folks for the day to go ahead so it would be much appreciated by all of us I'm sure. Get in touch, later, -------------  http://www.bmwccscotland.co.uk/cars/e46/m3csl.html" rel="nofollow - My Car 2004 M3 CSL and 2009 E90 M3 |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 09:21
Only need 1 more now  -------------
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Posted By: M BLUR
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 10:14
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Just confirmed to James that I'll attend the track day. So we should be on. Looking fwd to meet you all then? We can also discuss Le Mans for next year.
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1998 Zeemax M Roadster 2005 X5 3.0D Sport 1991 Esprit SE Race car |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 11:24
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Sorted
You two want to form up for a 3 car convoy to Crail? If you can bear to wait around for me in my lowly 328i  -------------
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Posted By: M BLUR
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 11:36
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I wouldn't say 'lowly' of any BM' 6 cylinder. Besides on that Crail road you'll leave my Z3M for dust! I'll just be crusing... listening to Gary Numan! Meet at the Hawes Inn? What time? ------------- www.lbmracing.com
1998 Zeemax M Roadster 2005 X5 3.0D Sport 1991 Esprit SE Race car |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 11:42
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I'm Stirling, Baz is Falkirk and are you not Larbert?
I was planning on heading past Tillicoutry, through Cupar and up through the pukka back roads... Meet in Dollar if you want to cut across or in Stirling (Springkerse Retails Park) if you want to start together? -------------
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Posted By: M BLUR
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 11:49
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Larbert.. yes. Sounds good Dunk.. I like the old Ochils road though I'll be taking it fairly easy so I'll proabably sit at the back of the pack and follow your lead. I'll be watching Baz as I think he'll probably want to stretch his new M3's legs. Springkerse Ind. Estate sounds fine to me - exactly which turning? I'll head along the old A9 past Plean and cut down from there. Or how about meet just down the road at Menzies?
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1998 Zeemax M Roadster 2005 X5 3.0D Sport 1991 Esprit SE Race car |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 11:59
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Menzies @ 0815hrs? Should allow for a sensible trip across. Baz? -------------
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Posted By: M BLUR
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 12:04
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Sounds good. agreed. U okay with that Baz? ------------- www.lbmracing.com
1998 Zeemax M Roadster 2005 X5 3.0D Sport 1991 Esprit SE Race car |
Posted By: nero
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 12:15
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Dunc/James -
Don't want to dissappoint, but is there not a rule that drivers of soft-top cars have to wear a crash helmet when on the track? I can remember when Jon was up with his Elise he brought his own helmet. Can Crail provide helmets? -------------  |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 12:20
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Soft top drivers need crash helmets if they are going round with the roof down - the elise boys whipped the roof off I think.
Crail can provide bone domes for the day although I think James may have to warn them ahead of time so they have enough... -------------
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Posted By: M BLUR
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 12:42
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I have an old open face helmet but it's no longer FIA. Perhaps you can check with Crail James (???). There's a chance I wont be taking to the track on my first time anyway..(translation.. the wife might not let me & it's 'officially' her car! The good news to that is that I go on the V5 of the next car as we hope to be adding a Porka to sit beside the M in 2 or so years time.. If that's enough then I'll bring it along. Best
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1998 Zeemax M Roadster 2005 X5 3.0D Sport 1991 Esprit SE Race car |
Posted By: sailorbaz
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 13:40
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Oooooooooooooh yes! Sounds smashing fellas! But I have to disagree with Jon, I don't want to stretch trhe new cars leg for a wee while yet. Well, 'til I get to Crail at least. All the ingredients for a good day are coming together like dough! 0815 @ Menzies sounds fine Duncan. Should only take about an hour and a wee bit to get to Crail from there, but we'll see. ------------- http://www.bmwccscotland.co.uk/cars/e46/m3csl.html" rel="nofollow - My Car 2004 M3 CSL and 2009 E90 M3 |
Posted By: MrBroon
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 20:24
| All convertible or drop top cars passengers and drivers must be wearing a helmet to drive. I will make sure that Crail have a min 5 helmets avail should we require them. If anybody else thinks we need more pls get in touch asap. |
Posted By: stevie53
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 21:05
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The cars going in for new clutch/release bearing, valve adjustment and insp.2 on Monday so don't know if I'll have it back in time. I'll try and pinch the brothers 911 if mine is not ready but I'll only be spectating either way. I'll let you know for definite nearer the time.
Stevie ------------- ///2000 E39 M5 Imola Red/// NO MORE una volta lei ha avuto l'italiano lei non andrą mai tedesco di nuovo haha |
Posted By: Brian M5
Date Posted: 15-October-2003 at 23:22
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911??, What are the rules for the track day. Is it possible to turn up on the day or is pre-booking essential? If so how much notice is needed ( I'm not sure if I will be back next week). I guess it doesn't have to be a BM. Do you need to be a member first then? Is extra insurance needed or desirable? Can a non member turn up in a scooby and get a drive paying on the gate. I've been asked to ask that one. Thanks ------------- 1995 E34 M5 Limited Edition Rosso / Champagne |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 16-October-2003 at 09:20
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Brian - there aren't really any hard and fast rules.
Preferred route is for drivers to register and pay a deposit with James ahead of the day. Any marque is welcome. Members and non-members are welcome. James as organiser of the day has final say in who participates. We reserve the right to refuse participation to an 'unknown' who turns up on the day, so in answer to your final question, no, the Scooby non-member is unlikely to be allowed on track. The day is not aimed at competitive racing. It is a chance to stretch your cars (and your) abilities in a legal environment. Some attendees arrange insurance, some do not. If you need more details, contact James direct as per http://www.newtongrove.demon.co.uk/bmwcc/crail_oct03.html Cheers, Duncan -------------
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Posted By: M BLUR
Date Posted: 16-October-2003 at 09:41
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Does anyone have any details of motorsport insurance for the day's cover? Given cost of replacement due to accident and of course std. life insurance exempt clauses... Jon ------------- www.lbmracing.com
1998 Zeemax M Roadster 2005 X5 3.0D Sport 1991 Esprit SE Race car |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 16-October-2003 at 10:23
Costs seem to vary widely from insurer to insurer - much like 'normal' car insurance 
Some members have been quoted about £20 others substantially more. It may be worth posting in either the 'Better Driving Day' forum or the M Power forum as our more serious track heads tend to live there... -------------
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Posted By: Brian M5
Date Posted: 16-October-2003 at 20:01
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Duncan, Thanks for the information. If I am around at the end of next week I will come over, even if it is just to spectate Cheers Brian ------------- 1995 E34 M5 Limited Edition Rosso / Champagne |
and pick up a few pointers for the next time there is a track day. Be careful going through Fife - that is where I pick up the speeding tickets even though I am rarely there (M9 unmarked cars)
Posted By: nero
Date Posted: 16-October-2003 at 22:03
I have started a post, re Speed Cameras worth a look! http://www.bmwcarclubgb.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3597&PN=1 - Link to Speed Camera Post ------------- |
Brian M5 wrote:Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 17-October-2003 at 09:21
Excellent - spectators always welcome
Next year we hope to be sorting out a visit to Knockhill as well as returning to Crail. Fingers crossed we can get some of our Irish troops across and some members from more southerly climes too. -------------
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Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 17-October-2003 at 11:03
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Dunc
Maybe popping over. Not sure if i'm bringing the car, depends on the weather. Will jump in with Gary or bring the bucket. It would be good to see knockhill full of M cars. |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 17-October-2003 at 11:10
Here's hoping 
I'll be getting v busy with some promotion once I get a date out of KH. Be good to see you @ Crail too. Cheers, Duncan -------------
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Posted By: M BLUR
Date Posted: 17-October-2003 at 15:06
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Would those who are attending Crail be interested in touring to Le Mans next year? For discussion on the 25th Oct.. How many of you have attended the driving days at the Nordershlafe?
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1998 Zeemax M Roadster 2005 X5 3.0D Sport 1991 Esprit SE Race car |
Posted By: gary
Date Posted: 17-October-2003 at 16:01
| Why not come along to the monthly meet on the Sunday & ask the troops who are there as well. |
Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 21-October-2003 at 22:33
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Did Le Mans last year and pitched a tent. Not far from the circuit so was noisy at night.
Going next year but looking to stay in a B&B. Coming back last year planned to stop @ my sisters(North London) but drove all they way home. Trip was worth it and great to see so many smart motors. Dunc will hopefully be bring my new bucket to Crail. Gotta sell the 944, been a great car. |
Posted By: MrBroon
Date Posted: 21-October-2003 at 23:01
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Are you going to be driving Toby? as your not on my list?
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 23-October-2003 at 09:36
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Anyone tried this?
http://www.bmwcarclubgb.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3684&PN=1 - http://www.bmwcarclubgb.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3684&PN=1 -------------
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Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 23-October-2003 at 19:07
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James
Don't think so. Got new bucket to run around in, so not ofay with it's characteristics yet. Will be driving up with Gary. |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 27-October-2003 at 09:36
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T'was another good day
Good to meet you Brian / Jon - cheers for the passenger laps. I'll get my pix and Nero's up as ASAP. -------------
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 27-October-2003 at 11:37
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Nero's Pix at http://www.newtongrove.demon.co.uk/bmwcc/meets/2003/oct/ - http://www.newtongrove.demon.co.uk/bmwcc/meets/2003/oct/ -------------
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Posted By: Howard
Date Posted: 27-October-2003 at 16:18
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I had a great day at the track - after a 5 hour drive and an overnight stop to get there. Next time, please pick a day which is not the start of half term in England, and the M6 is not closed overnight for bridge works.
Crail deserves lots of support to get it established. How often can you get a great ocean view when going along the track at 90? Thanks to everyone who organised it. ------------- 1963 700 LS 1988 635 CSi 1990 M635 CSi no longer! 2001 E38 728i Individual http://www.tyneships.co.uk" rel="nofollow - http://www.tyneships.co.uk |
Posted By: nero
Date Posted: 27-October-2003 at 16:37
We were discussing what speeds people got to on that straight at last nights monthly meet.
Glad you made it up and enjoyed your day/s - does this mean you'll be a regular next year? ------------- |
Posted By: Brian M5
Date Posted: 27-October-2003 at 23:05
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James / Duncan Thanks for the great days entertainment. Definitley the best fun with your trousers on. As for the ocean view at max. speed - I couldn't take the time to look in the mirror just then. See you at Knockhill. Brian ------------- 1995 E34 M5 Limited Edition Rosso / Champagne |
Posted By: M BLUR
Date Posted: 28-October-2003 at 08:16
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I think Brian was like me in that we both took a sedate approach on the bends but opened up on that back straight. I was in second coming off the last bend before that straight. But by taking a very wide line (As Dunc will confirm) on the back straight I was hitting 7000 rpm in third before snatching fourth well before the tyres before bend one. Redline in third in the Z3M is between 95-105mph adjusting for margin of error. I managed to stay on the gas in fourth for a few seconds before blipping for the tyres. I would assume the Z3M was either second or third fastest down the straight after then CSL and perhaps Brian's M5. A great day..! ------------- www.lbmracing.com
1998 Zeemax M Roadster 2005 X5 3.0D Sport 1991 Esprit SE Race car |
Posted By: sailorbaz
Date Posted: 28-October-2003 at 18:42
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Alright Guys, You've no idea how peed off I was to pass you all driving through Crail the wrong way! I was looking forward to that day for a long time as Dunc will tell you and not amused at missing it at all! :-( Anyway, never did go out on the track as I'm sure you'll know it was wound down by the time I got up there. I did take a trip along to Hawes hoping to catch up with most of you there though. As I read through the various post i can see that you all had a really good time, excellent stuff. Well, I will see a few of you at the Karting in the very near future and I look forward to going to the Scottish Motor Show with Gary and Duncan and whoever else fancies it. See ya later. ------------- http://www.bmwccscotland.co.uk/cars/e46/m3csl.html" rel="nofollow - My Car 2004 M3 CSL and 2009 E90 M3 |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 29-October-2003 at 09:14
My pix have now been added to Neil's at http://www.newtongrove.demon.co.uk/bmwcc/meets/2003/oct/ - http://www.newtongrove.demon.co.uk/bmwcc/meets/2003/oct/
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Posted By: M BLUR
Date Posted: 29-October-2003 at 10:00
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Dunc, Can you send me the pic of me and my Z3M side on...?Email is: mailto:jbecket@franklintempleton.co.uk - jbecket@franklintempleton.co.uk Pity we don't have a photo of when we span 180 at the hay bales hairpin! I think we were giggling too much anyway.. Best to all fellow Crail thrashers..
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1998 Zeemax M Roadster 2005 X5 3.0D Sport 1991 Esprit SE Race car |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 29-October-2003 at 10:21
This chappie?
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