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New Member and 6 lover

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Forum Name: The Big Coupé Forum
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Topic: New Member and 6 lover
Posted By: Sohlman
Subject: New Member and 6 lover
Date Posted: 19-August-2003 at 13:47

  Just recently joined this club, having been a member of the drivers club for 4 years. There is much more going on here which is great.

Have owned now my Artic Blue 635csi for nearly five years now and still absolutly love it. I spent 6 months looking for a post 85 car with a manual gearbox and finally found it two miles away from where i was living having looked at about 20 cars previously and spent my entire student grant on it. tehe. It was a special order from germany specing a manual bos LSD and artic blue which was not available in the UK. I have every document and bit of paper for it that has been produced in it''s 18years of service. 

Over the last 8 months I have put my car through a rolling restoration repairing or fixing anything that was not perfect which has included a new wing, any rust cut out, removed treated and area resprayed. New suspension, brakes, wheels. Full application of stone chip paint and waxoil. And hopefully over the next three weeks I will have saved up anough to bring the leather back to it's former glory by having it reconolised.

I am currently considering upgrading the front brakes to those from an e32 750 or 850 which includes changing the calipers and discs and pads. Has anybody got any comments on this, have done this or have any advice.

 

Thanks James

 




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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 19-August-2003 at 14:13
Welcome to the board & club. Hope you find it useful

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Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 21-August-2003 at 21:56

The E28 (5 series), E24 (6 series) & E32 (7 series) brakes are interchangable. The brakes listed below bolt on without any modification. This requires calipers, carriers, guide bolts, rotors and pads. You need the carrier for each brake system, usually included if you buy used. If changing both front & rear it's best to upgrade the master cylinder too.  A thorough rebuild of your standard brakes may give you the improvement you want!

Front brake assemblies that will fit any E24/E28:

E28 535 282mm x 25mm vented or E28 M5 300mm x 30mm

E34 535 302mm x 22mm vented

E34 540 302mm x 28mm vented

E34 M5 315mm x 28mm vented

E34 M5 345mm x 32mm vented from 6/94

E32 735 302mm x 28mm vented

E32 750 302mm x 28mm vented

E31 840 324mm x 30mm

Rear brake assemblies that fit any E28:

E28 535 284mm x 10mm solid

E34 535 300mm x 10mm solid

E34 540 300mm x 20mm vented

E34 M5 300mm x 20mm vented

E34 M5 328mm x 20mm vented from 6/94



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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 21-August-2003 at 22:06
Originally posted by AndyS AndyS wrote:

<P align=justify><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>The E28 (5 series), E24 (6 series) & E32 (7 series) brakes are interchangable. The brakes listed below bolt on without any modification. This requires calipers, carriers, guide bolts, rotors and pads. You need the carrier for each brake system, usually included if you buy used. If changing both front & rear it's best to upgrade the master cylinder too.  A thorough rebuild of your standard brakes may give you the improvement you want!



Aha! This list appeared on the US-based Big Coupe Group!


Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 23-August-2003 at 12:19
Somewhere like that. I was sharking around various E24 sites & found quite a bit of info on brake upgrades. General consensus seemed to be that in normal street driving the standard brakes are ok if in good condition. Track days & storming the Stelvio pass would start to show up weaknesses. Increasing front disc size gives a slightly longer pedal action, increasing the rear as well means you have to change the master cylinder too or the pedal action is too long.  Good luck!

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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 24-August-2003 at 11:55
See also www.bigcoupe.com


Posted By: Sohlman
Date Posted: 26-August-2003 at 02:55
Have been to bigcoupe and have posted my details. There are a lot of nice 6's on there, although the american spec cars are spoiled a bit by those horrible side bumpers Don't you think!


Posted By: Sohlman
Date Posted: 26-August-2003 at 11:10
Originally posted by AndyS AndyS wrote:

The E28 (5 series), E24 (6 series) & E32 (7 series) brakes are interchangable. The brakes listed below bolt on without any modification. This requires calipers, carriers, guide bolts, rotors and pads. You need the carrier for each brake system, usually included if you buy used. If changing both front & rear it's best to upgrade the master cylinder too.  A thorough rebuild of your standard brakes may give you the improvement you want!

Thankyou for your advice. I have already done a complete rebuild of the braking system about two years ago with original BMW parts, which improved the braking considerable, but the brakes still feel lacking compared to an e34 or e39 car which is worrying as the car is a good 25% quicker. My worst incident i have exsperienced was driving down a bit of dual carrige way were there were 4 roundabout in a row with brief 500 meter straits inbetween. I was not driving the car particulary hard, but braking down from 80mph was enough to give me very bad brake fade by the fourth roundabout and caused me to have to stamp very hard on the pedal in order to get to a respectable speed  in which to take the roundabout. It was this moment that caused me to look into a brake upgrade as i want to take the car to france and switzerland for a couple of weeks holiday and feel at present the brakes are not man enough to come down a swiss mountain road.

Anyway, i apreciate the replies and i am now trying to souce some 750 calipers front and rear and a master cylinder from a braker yard. I will then get some new original BMW discs to match and will put in some softer pads.



Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 26-August-2003 at 20:03
Originally posted by Sohlman Sohlman wrote:

...braking down from 80mph was enough to give me very bad brake fade by the fourth roundabout



I take it that was an "indicated 80mph"


Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 26-August-2003 at 20:06
Originally posted by Sohlman Sohlman wrote:

Have been to bigcoupe and have posted my details. There are a lot of nice 6's on there, although the american spec cars are spoiled a bit by those horrible side bumpers Don't you think!


The US-spec 5mph bumpers were a legal requirement at the time.


Posted By: Sohlman
Date Posted: 26-August-2003 at 21:58

Originally posted by Horsetan Horsetan wrote:


The US-spec 5mph bumpers were a legal requirement at the time.

They still look pants in my opinion



Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 26-August-2003 at 22:34
Originally posted by Sohlman Sohlman wrote:

Originally posted by Horsetan Horsetan wrote:


The US-spec 5mph bumpers were a legal requirement at the time.


They still look pants in my opinion



That's why the US enthusiasts call them "Park Benches", 'cos you can sit on them. They do protect the nose cone, though....


Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 26-August-2003 at 22:41
Originally posted by Sohlman Sohlman wrote:

Have been to bigcoupe and have posted my details.


The Website owner, Thom Anderson, says he wants to hear from you about your car's specific details, so that he can add to the photo which is already there. E-mail him at: blkshark@bigcoupe.com


Posted By: Sohlman
Date Posted: 27-August-2003 at 19:25

Will e-mail him now and post some photos, tried yesterday, but it fired the e-mail back at me. Prabably got the wrong address from the web site.

 



Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 27-August-2003 at 19:43
imgmkr@svn.net doesn't always work. Luckily Thom maintains about three different e-mail addresses.



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