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Topic: hi bit of advice please
Posted By: greg320i
Subject: hi bit of advice please
Date Posted: 23-July-2006 at 00:54

hi just joined and have recently bought a 320i e30 which is very nice indeed,i will post some pics v.soon

 

question is and may have been asked before so apoligies if this is the case,iv searched to no avail,im happy enough with the car,but for more power i was going to do a 325 conversion?

i rebuild engines for a living and do so on a daily basis,all i wish to know is the differance with the engine?ie..compression ratio differances and basically what parts i can use from the 320-325

i was thinking of using the 320 box as im sure there cant be major differance other than ratio,both being a straight 6 and all

so any input would be great,like i said its a project and as the cars mint theres no hurry,but just curious

one more question differance in manifolds would be useful ie flow rate,and can the 325manifold be used as a decent upgrade?

mods on car as follows powerflow intake,ecu chip,magnex zorst with 325 pipes

 

cheers greg




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Posted By: whitey
Date Posted: 23-July-2006 at 07:58

There are loads of guys on here that can help you.

However, you are at a point where you have an excellent opportunity to go 2.7. The most common way to go these days is to use the old e28 525e engine (or at least the crank, pistons and conrods and is also know as the eta lump) which is actually a 2.7. It's been described as think of the difference between 320 and a 325, it's the same again. I'm certainly looking into it. 

More info here

http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=29170&KW=2%2E7&PN=0&TPN=1 - http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=29170&a mp;KW=2%2E7&PN=0&TPN=1

 



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2000 e39 523i with full factory sport kit.
1989 e30 325i Convertible
1999 Golf GTI 1.8T


Posted By: greg320i
Date Posted: 23-July-2006 at 11:18
Originally posted by whitey whitey wrote:

There are loads of guys on here that can help you.

However, you are at a point where you have an excellent opportunity to go 2.7. The most common way to go these days is to use the old e28 525e engine (or at least the crank, pistons and conrods and is also know as the eta lump) which is actually a 2.7. It's been described as think of the difference between 320 and a 325, it's the same again. I'm certainly looking into it. 

More info here

http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=29170&KW=2%2E7&PN=0&TPN=1 - http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=29170&a mp;a mp;KW=2%2E7&PN=0&TPN=1

 

#cheers whitey,sounds a good plan,so in theory you could just bore out the 320 block and use the 525e pistons,rods,crank etc

 

or is it better to just use the whole bottom end and get new rings and a hone?

 

can i use the 320 head or will i need the 325? cheers



Posted By: whitey
Date Posted: 23-July-2006 at 13:12

I'm starting with a 2.5 anyway so I'll probably just go for a 2.7 crank and rods. As far as I know you'd need a 2.5 block so you may as well source a complete 2.7 lump and use the block and pistons.

Come on guy's help greg out here.



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2000 e39 523i with full factory sport kit.
1989 e30 325i Convertible
1999 Golf GTI 1.8T


Posted By: whitey
Date Posted: 23-July-2006 at 13:17

Also, get yourself along to Gaydon in August to the clubs national. There will be stacks of e30's there with loads of advice to go with it.

If Stannard Motors are there again this year, They specialise in the 2.7 M20 conversions and have done for years.  



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2000 e39 523i with full factory sport kit.
1989 e30 325i Convertible
1999 Golf GTI 1.8T


Posted By: greg320i
Date Posted: 23-July-2006 at 18:32
Originally posted by whitey whitey wrote:

Also, get yourself along to Gaydon in August to the clubs national. There will be stacks of e30's there with loads of advice to go with it.

If Stannard Motors are there again this year, They specialise in the 2.7 M20 conversions and have done for years.  

much appreciated mate something to look in to,il try and come along to the meet

il get some pics of my e30 on later

 

greg



Posted By: kidsinister
Date Posted: 24-July-2006 at 10:29
Have you visited E30zone.co.uk? This job's been done to death on there, oodles of info to be had - they'll probably talk you into a 2.7 conversion, though...

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Alec J. Wood

Tuppence 1985 Alpina C2 2.5


Posted By: Drew540i
Date Posted: 24-July-2006 at 22:53
Use a standard 525e short engine - that's block,
crank, rods and pistons. You should be able to pick
up an engine for £100 but I'd be buying a complete
running 525e off ebay for around the same money
so you can hear it run.
If the bores on the 525e engine are a bit crap but the
pistons will go again, you can get the 320i block
bored from 80 to 84mm.

Use the standard 320i head and cam, exhaust,
clutch, gearbox etc. But use a 325i inlet manifold with
throttle body and injectors plus a 325i air flow meter.
You'll need to spend half an hour with a stone in a
drill to open out the inlet ports in the head to match
the 325i manifold but it's dead easy. Finally replace
the chip in the ECU and you're done - about 170 bhp
and a big blob of torque. You'll be breaking traction in
third gear!

This is the most cost effective way of doing a 2.7 on
a 320i and it works! Don't get talked into 325i
pistons, heads etc because that's just complicating
matters.


Posted By: greg320i
Date Posted: 25-July-2006 at 04:58

Originally posted by Drew540i Drew540i wrote:

Use a standard 525e short engine - that's block,
crank, rods and pistons. You should be able to pick
up an engine for £100 but I'd be buying a complete
running 525e off ebay for around the same money
so you can hear it run.
If the bores on the 525e engine are a bit crap but the
pistons will go again, you can get the 320i block
bored from 80 to 84mm.

Use the standard 320i head and cam, exhaust,
clutch, gearbox etc. But use a 325i inlet manifold with
throttle body and injectors plus a 325i air flow meter.
You'll need to spend half an hour with a stone in a
drill to open out the inlet ports in the head to match
the 325i manifold but it's dead easy. Finally replace
the chip in the ECU and you're done - about 170 bhp
and a big blob of torque. You'll be breaking traction in
third gear!

This is the most cost effective way of doing a 2.7 on
a 320i and it works! Don't get talked into 325i
pistons, heads etc because that's just complicating
matters.

thanks mate,kbnow what i need if i choose to do so ta




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