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Topic: World’s best Highline?
Posted By: Andyboy
Subject: World’s best Highline?
Date Posted: 21-August-2006 at 14:46
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1989-BMW-635-CSI-highline-AU
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Item 270019870523

If this isn't £15'000 worth I don't know what is..........

I'm surprised our friends down in Sussex haven't
bought this. never welded, painted and look at the
condition of the Lotus leather!
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Posted By: steven.seed
Date Posted: 21-August-2006 at 15:03
Got to say that is one of the most glorious pieces of automotive porn I have seen for a while. I can understand the guy from Saudi offering £25k ( if thats true ) but without doubt if I had it to spare I would pay £15 to £18k for it.

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Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 21-August-2006 at 15:50
Try this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270019870523&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Fsofocus%3Dbs%26sbrftog%3D1%26catref%3DC6%26from%3DR10%26satitle%3D270019870523%26sacat%3D9837%2526catref%253DC6%26a39%3D-24%26a6%3D-24%26a85%3D-24%26a38%3D-24%26gcs%3D13%26pfid%3D1150%26reqtype%3D1%26pfmode%3D1%26alist%3Da39%252Ca41%252Ca6%252Ca85%252Ca38%252Ca3801%26pf_query%3D270019870523%26sargn%3D-1%2526saslc%253D3%26sadis%3D200%26fpos%3DNE30%2B2SU%26ga10244%3D10425%26ftrt%3D1%26ftrv%3D1%26saprclo%3D%26saprchi%3D%26fsop%3D3%2526fsoo%253D2%26coaction%3Dcompare%26copagenum%3D1%26coentrypage%3Dsearch%26fvi%3D1 - link .

Looks a peach. Bet the high bid shoots up in the last day or so.



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Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 21-August-2006 at 15:53

It does indeed look magnificent.

The whole thing about the guy from Saudi offering 25k sounds a bit fishy though. Surely he would have just made a lower offer if the owner didn't want to sell it for that much, which again if the procedes are going to charity sounds a bit strange. Surely he would be happy to get 25k for it

Also no mention of any service history which is kind of important for for an ebay listing.

Assuming it's genuine, then it looks like a great car and for anyone wanting to buy an E24 and having a wad of cash spare it sounds perfect.

Edit:

I've just looked at the pictures again and that passenger seat has definatley been sat in at some point and not just once or twice. Why would the seller claim that it has never been if it has?

 



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Posted By: Dergside
Date Posted: 21-August-2006 at 16:02

That really does look to be a time warp car.  Really tasty.



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Posted By: GraemeH
Date Posted: 21-August-2006 at 18:33
Okay, I'll bite . . .  A fan of 5 speed manuals, not-white 635s, and wheels that don't always require a skinny brush to clean 'em, I'd probably keep my cash. But being a short story writer, I do like the little tale (true or false, it's a real beaut!)  

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Posted By: fozzymandeus
Date Posted: 21-August-2006 at 18:42
Erm... sorry to say it but I'd be really suspicious of this...

Very unusual to have unscrupulous buyers selling such unusual cars but that's not a reason to be more at ease. The description sounds _really_ fishy:

No previous owners but not registered until '91?!

And this strange trick (maybe someone can explain it for me as I see it alot with ebay auctions) of having the seller appoint an ebayer to do the dirty work. This always worries me as the winning bidder has a contract to purchase a car from someone who does not own it!

Personally I would steer well clear of this and if I was looking with serious money for a classic BMW, go through one of the classic dealers.

Also, the charity thing... is it a cover?


Posted By: phb10186
Date Posted: 21-August-2006 at 20:52

A good couple of years by the sea will get that looking like it should!

2 things strike me: 1; Why did the chap who owns this car not sell it through a specialist? 2; Why does he leave it in neutral when its parked?

That 'getting a friend to sell for you' trick is usually because the owner doesn't know how to use ebay, or a computer, or both - if he was 59 in 1990, he is 75 now, and I dont know too many people that have been collecting their pension for 10 years who know much about internet auctioning!

The Saudi Arabia bit is clearly a load of crap, that is designed to stimulate potential buyers in thinking that the car is worth a few grand less than £25K - so 12-20 in other words. Who with any sense would include those bits of information anyway, if it was not designed to raise the price?

For a car that has done 36,000 miles it actually looks a bit too clean IMHO. There is no dirt or rust at all, and that engine looks brand new. I think there would be more apparent wear - especially given the fact that this guy lived in Central London for years, and had an average journey of about 0.5 miles, with 100 gear changes per mile.

You would definately need to inspect that car closely before you committed to it!

But then thats my oppinion - whatever the story, thats a minter for sure, and its worth a lot for 6 - I'd love it!

Also: The car in that picture is not in Belgravia, it is somewhere in the suburbs, or out of London completely. That might be because the friends live out, or he drove it somewhere nice for the picture - but then Belgravia is pretty darn nice i'd say, so why not photo it there.



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Posted By: mjf297
Date Posted: 21-August-2006 at 21:28

Wow! The word "mint" is often over used but if those photos are anything to go by that is pretty much there. Looks genuine to me apart from the £25k offer - they could have been a bit more subtle! They even say no obligation or deposit until you have inspected it on collection - can't say fairer than that really!



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Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 21-August-2006 at 23:09
I'd be really careful if only because it's Ebay.

My worry would be is it stolen?

A good check of the numbers would be called for.


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Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 21-August-2006 at 23:11
It's up to £5300 now with 6 days to go.



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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 21-August-2006 at 23:18
Originally posted by phb10186 phb10186 wrote:

A good couple of years by the sea will get that looking like it should!

Quote Also: The car in that picture is not in Belgravia, it is somewhere in the suburbs, or out of London completely. ...

I've never seen bungalows in Belgravia.....



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Posted By: phb10186
Date Posted: 22-August-2006 at 00:18

That white 635 in this much talked about auction looks exactly how it should; the ride height is perfect, and so are the wheels.

Anyone thinking about fitting big rims on their 6 should look long and hard at this car.



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1985 635 CSI with Style 134's
1998 Z3 2.8i


Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 22-August-2006 at 00:24
Originally posted by phb10186 phb10186 wrote:

That white 635 in this much talked about auction looks exactly how it should; the ride height is perfect, and so are the wheels.

Anyone thinking about fitting big rims on their 6 should look long and hard at this car.

They are metrics....and you know what that means



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Posted By: phb10186
Date Posted: 22-August-2006 at 09:50

A genuine garantee that the car has not been driven hard round a corner!



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1985 635 CSI with Style 134's
1998 Z3 2.8i


Posted By: Andyboy
Date Posted: 22-August-2006 at 11:36
But if you're paying £10-15000 for this, a set of new
Metrix isn't going to worry you too much. I agree with
PHB - this is exactly how it should look. No other
wheel looks better on an E24 than a BBS X- Spoke.
All that car needs is Oxblood red leather to be a truly
wondrous thing.

As for the legality of it - possession is nine tenths of
the law.
Obviously there are things you must do;

When you view the car, ask to use the loo. Sounds
daft but there's no better way of seeing if the guy with
the keys also has keys to the house! This is the
most common way of fleecing someone - the guy is
outside in the drive leathing the car off , but it's not
HIS house..........

That stuff about the car being serviced before
collection. Hmmm - I wouldn't give the seller 10p
until I can physically go and collect the car. You pay
for it, it goes to Holland Park or wherever,never to be
seen again.

There IS something not quite kosher about this.

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Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 22-August-2006 at 11:52

Originally posted by 5KXO 5KXO wrote:

There IS something not quite kosher about this.

Absolutely. As I said, why lie about something as simple as a the passenger seat never have been sat in. If he is lying about something so trivial what other porkies is he telling.

That doesn't mean to say it isn't a good car though...



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Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 22-August-2006 at 12:24
And where is the "owner" sunning himself - Nigeria???

Too many alarm bells starting to sound.

Remember, if something seems too good to be true that's because it probably is!



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Posted By: phb10186
Date Posted: 23-August-2006 at 00:47

Wait until the auction is over, and then contact the winning bidder, I am sure they will be happy to talk to chums from the 6 series technical forum.... If it reaches its reserve.

 

I will be surprised if it reaches £10K on there, but lets see... I will be happy to be quoted on this later.



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1985 635 CSI with Style 134's
1998 Z3 2.8i


Posted By: m3Cecotto
Date Posted: 23-August-2006 at 00:49
Withdrawn - no longer available for sale

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Posted By: phb10186
Date Posted: 23-August-2006 at 00:58
Good point

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1985 635 CSI with Style 134's
1998 Z3 2.8i


Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 23-August-2006 at 12:13
I wonder why?

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Posted By: steven.seed
Date Posted: 23-August-2006 at 12:22
Peter, have a look at the question section, seems some wealthy collector has bought it.

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1998 E36 318iS Saloon   
1989 E30 318i. Coupe
2000 E39 520i Touring



Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 23-August-2006 at 12:31

Originally posted by steven.seed steven.seed wrote:

Peter, have a look at the question section, seems some wealthy collector has bought it.

 

I wonder if Ross Harris is the new owner?



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Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 23-August-2006 at 12:50

Originally posted by steven.seed steven.seed wrote:

Peter, have a look at the question section, seems some wealthy collector has bought it.

That's a shame. So I guess it'll spend most of it's life in storage. Not what BMW intended when they made it.



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Posted By: m3Cecotto
Date Posted: 23-August-2006 at 14:15
Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

That's a shame. So I guess it'll spend most of it's life in storage. Not what BMW intended when they made it.

While I agree to a certain extent, what somebody said earlier is relevant too, that a couple of months sitting outside in Brighton will have it reduced to the same level as almost every other six - rotten.

I think that it's valuable to keep cars like this in ORIGINAL unrestored condition, just to show how superbly engineered and built they actually were (if we can ignore Karmann's contributions).  There are hundreds and hundreds of good Highlines about that the enthusiast can buy and enjoy driving and maybe restore over time. 

There are very few that he can use as a reference point.



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1981 E23 735i
1989 E30 325i Motorsport Cabrio
1989 E24 635CSi Motorsport Edition

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Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 23-August-2006 at 14:32
It all seems very odd. If you're going to do a deal "off the table" why get into public Q & A exchanges.

On reflection, I think it was someone trying to see how much the car might fetch if it actually was put up for sale.

On the subject of mileage & condition, I know someone who recently bought a Highline with similar (40k) miles for £8k which I thought was a bargain but being a perfectionist there were a few little things that he thought needed doing.

You simply can't drive a car for 36000 without there being some wear & tear to bodywork etc. Remember the cirrus blue car that a guy had inherited from his aunt? That had rust in the front wings even with a similar 35k on it.


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Posted By: phb10186
Date Posted: 24-August-2006 at 15:21

Maybe ill see that white one up for sale in 2050 when im old and grey, when there will only be that and a certain red M6 in existance, and fuel will be £50 a liter!



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1985 635 CSI with Style 134's
1998 Z3 2.8i


Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 24-August-2006 at 22:22

Originally posted by m3Cecotto m3Cecotto wrote:

....just to show how superbly engineered and built they actually were (if we can ignore Karmann's contributions)....

...which we can't



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Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 25-August-2006 at 08:23
Originally posted by Horsetan Horsetan wrote:

Originally posted by m3Cecotto m3Cecotto wrote:

....just to show how superbly engineered and built they actually were (if we can ignore Karmann's contributions)....

...which we can't

I think someone need to post some pictures just to remind us



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Posted By: phb10186
Date Posted: 25-August-2006 at 23:09
To be honest, with the inner and outer wings gone, the sills, and the wheel arches; you still have 95% of your car, which would still be pretty much perfect to drive - OK it would look crap, and let the water in, but it would still drive OK.

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1985 635 CSI with Style 134's
1998 Z3 2.8i


Posted By: Jimbob
Date Posted: 10-October-2006 at 16:32
Until the next MOT...

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