On Trial
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Printed Date: 26-May-2024 at 04:03
Topic: On Trial
Posted By: Howard
Subject: On Trial
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 22:22
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Hello all North East Members,
Just a note to say that the National Committee has invited me to a meeting at Gaydon on Friday, which has been called to and I quote - "consider a resolution to terminate your membership of the BMW Car Club Great Britain Limited. You are herby also notified that the general nature of the grounds for proposing this action are as follows:- . You have conducted yourelf in a manner objectional to other members of the club. .You have acted contrary to the interests of the club. You are entitled to be present at this meeting and to be heard by the board members there present. The board has discretion to accept or reject any explanation or defence and the decision of the board at that time will be final and conclusive." end quote I have written to the club to ask them for copies of the evidence that is to be presented, so that I can formulate a defence. As of now (22:18 on the 28th) I have received no reply, though I notice that the reply should have gone to the club office, rather than the company secretary who signed the letter. I will be attending the meeting tomorrow, and will advise you of the outcome. 
------------- 1963 700 LS 1988 635 CSi 1990 M635 CSi no longer! 2001 E38 728i Individual http://www.tyneships.co.uk" rel="nofollow - http://www.tyneships.co.uk |
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Posted By: Rossi
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 22:53
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guilty as charged your honour... It seems like minds are already made up irrespective of attendance or not. In the eyes of BMW (AG), I suppose the Car Club have to be seen to be taking some sort of action, as the club is officially recognised by BMW (AG). It's just a shame that it has to come to this in my view. The whole thing is just so petty.. but, what goes around comes around, just look at the car club forum..usually posted here first and then on the car club site..whats the point? Double posting across two forums with the same purpose..to assist people who need it. common sense does not prevail here.[rant over] ------------- |
Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 22:58
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This is apalling treatment of someone who has worked damn hard for the
club. In fact the chairman would not even allow thanks be said for your
work during the last AGM. I got the same letter. Upon requesting details of the reasons for this action I was told by AD that "the board is not required to provide you with any further detail". Also in reference to bringing a solicitor along, I was told that "the only person invited to attend is the club member. No other invitation is made or implied and the member should present themselves alone before the board." (AD: I know your email said not to disclose anything but do you think I care about that?). The title of this thread is On Trial'. This is not a trial its a farsical attempt to ambush someone. However, the chairmans actions in my opinion has satisfied the criteria that they are using against you. Would someone care to ask him the following:- * how much did the club spend altogether on the misleading PR letters sent to each club member? * how much did the club spend on getting their solicitors to send me daft letters?* * what procedure was used to select a new webmaster after the last one was pushed out. Why were the services of many club members not requested. Surely someone would have done the work for free and without ripping off the Ferrari club website. Perhaps the fact that the new webmaster is JH's friend is merely a coincidence! * does the club practice underhanded tactics with all members that they don't like? * why has the chairman still not apologised for insulting E30 owners and their cars? * why has the chairman not yet apologsed to the club member he insulted in a number of emails? Does the board not care that a member left the club becausse of these actions? I spent a considerable amount of time and money doing work for the club over the years. You can be damn sure Im getting it all back. * I was asked to effectively apologise for hearing a rumour about Dr. Dale. I was instructed to apologise for saying that I don't trust AD. I don't! Should I? I was also requested to remove something or other from the forum that wasn't there. J & A, if you think Im signing this rubbish then your can both kiss my arse! You treat the general club membership with contempt by your actions. You have also treated the Irish region with contempt (when was the last time you bothered visiting us?). You bully your way and when that doesn't work you throw a tantrum and keep pushing it until you eventually get your way. Well I stood up to you and I will continue doing so until you are gone! I eagerly await that day! ------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual |
Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 28-September-2006 at 23:05
This is crazy. 
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Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 07:15
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Seems to me, from an outsider's point of view, that the idiots in the playpen are trying their damnedest to get rid of all that was good about the BMW club. Undoing years of work to stop the stereotypical obnoxious/pompous BMW driver that has been achieved here on this site and by several members, especially yourself Howard.
One could almost (I did say almost) compare the actions of the playpen to that of another well known and largely despised German...'this is the way it will be, no-one will argue with us, we are in charge...anyone refusing to co-operate will be put up against the wall and shot' The way they have treated so many here is a disgrace, I would love it if someone here could get all the evidence together and present it at BMW HQ and ask...'Do you REALLY want the official club acting in this way?' and if they say 'yes'...slap 'em with a nice chunky lawsuit which we would all sign our names to....lets see, defamation of character, bullying, internet espionage...I'm sure someone could get them on something and make it stick. Damn posterior orifices and spherical objects...  ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 12:40
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They seem to hanker for the days when BMW ownership was for the rich elite. "If someone cant afford to pay £35 to post on our forum, we don't want them" was the quote that amused me most. I thought the new webmaster was a buddy of the good doctor, rather than porkie, but I don't imagine that matters much. In my experience you can get everything that was claimed to be a benefit of membership without being a BMWCC member, with the exception of the car club mag....you can even go to events ! ------------- Best Wishes Nigel |
Posted By: Fushion Julz
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 12:49
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Perhaps the time has come for all members who are opposed to the actions of the Board/Chairman to vote with their feet/wallet and refuse to sign up again. If enough folk do that, then the club will need to reconsider the actions of the board. Perhaps, also, it is time to resurrect the BMW Drivers Club? ------------- 1987 E30 M3 1996 E36 328i SE 4dr (Manual) 1992 E34 525iX Touring...SOLD |
Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 12:50
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Its like the nonsense over the name of the site here...it boils down to jealousy...
They are jealous that this site is still exceptionally popular. They are jealous that so many here have more respect for Howard, Killian et al than they will ever have in a million years. They are pi$$ed off cos this site and its membership won't go away..as they would dearly love we would... They are also pi$$ed off cos there is alot more loyalty towards Killian and the team and the site here than they gauged....more fool them for underestimating everyone.. They need to wake up and realise that everything they do to put people down here or cause a problem for the site as a whole, the heavier the backlash will be...the backlash being that they are making themselves look stupid, juvenile and pathetic.... ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 12:52
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I'm not sure you can restart the Drivers club....didn't bmwccgb take it over ? ------------- Best Wishes Nigel |
Posted By: Rossi
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 13:15
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As Nigel says, anyone can go to their events/meets so, why don't they clamp down on non-members attending events, begs the question, why join? £35 a year for something that is free... Too much condescending crap goin' on I think..not a very 'club' orientated attitude. ------------- |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 13:16
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I am appalled that 2 members of the club (that we know of) can be treated in this way. I await with interest the details of any 'evidence' presented.
I read the chairman's chat in the October magazine this morning in disbelief. It implies that I and the rest of the 'group of individuals' (i.e. the moderator team) am both 'hijacker' and 'thief'. Surely this means that the chairman is "conducting himself in a manner objectionable to other members of the club" and, by continually using club funds and print media as his personal soapbox, "acting contrary to the interests of the club". ------------- 
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Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 13:25
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Just how much does BMW actually know...or care to know...about whats going on over here?
Are they condoning what is happening or have they been kept out of the loop? If they have been kept out of the loop, is it not time to bring them up to speed in respect of the shenanigans going on within their UK owners club??? BMW has a huge ownership of their vehicles across the UK/Ireland...it would be interesting to see what their reaction would be if they knew the bare boned truth about what the 'club' management are getting up to...and the way the 'club' management are dragging the reputation of their company name through the dung heap, alienating owners/drivers of their cars...possibly even, in a few cases, driving those owners to other makes of car where people are treated in a more reasonable fashion... ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Jeff Spangle
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 13:32
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I'm appalled at this Howard, appalled and disgusted by the behaviour of the club and it's officers.
How do they see the club, do they wear some special kind of glasses? It seems they are out to self-destruct because club members will vote with their feet. Obvoiusly Mr Haywood has another of his friends lined up to replace you, mores the pity. How does the membership bring about a vote of no confidence in the committee and the chairman? Is this possible? |
Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 14:18
Probably not possible Jeff, the gruesome twosome will control the members that count the votes  ------------- Best Wishes Nigel |
Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 14:19
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Well tell him then Duncan, although expect the same fate as the rest of us ! ------------- Best Wishes Nigel |
Webdunk wrote:Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 14:40
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Off the wall idea...
How feasible is it for this and all the other non-affiliated BMW sites getting together in a joint effort and putting a vote of no confidence in the management of the BMW car club? There are hundreds of sites with thousands of members across the UK/Ireland...give everyone a voice as I am pretty sure that this will not be the only site which has been picked on in recent months in this way. Join forces...make a stand together against the posterior orrifices and make sure that BMW AG HQ hear all about it too.... One massive multi site member petition with evidence to boot of the shenanigans.....you never know, it MIGHT work...1 site against them isn't going to hurt them where it will be painful the most...in the club coffers...however several sites together would be a force to be reckoned with. And once word gets out to the other sites how this one is being treated, there is bound to be an outcry and enough disgusted people to do something about it. ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 14:43
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I'm not sure it matters that much Ally. I have been advised that our main problem is rather wealthy and can pretty well do as he wishes. If he wants a club just for his mates, then he can have one !
------------- Best Wishes Nigel |
Posted By: kdevitt
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 14:47
Don't think they're overly bothered - but an official boycott of Total BMW magazine would be a good starting point. They have a BMW CC page every month. And they can't afford to lose a huge chunk of readers. ------------- http://www.bmw-driver.net - BMW-Driver.net |
Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 15:11
Well thats easy...get the evidence to prove that and send it to the factory HQ with one question...'Are you aware that your UK/Ireland club is shafting people, defaming people and bringing the BMW into disrepute for their own purposes?' ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Coasting
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 18:09
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Edited it all out to say just what matters.... The BMW Car Club is a joke. Always has been, always will be. It's used by others (and it is) as a model as to how NOT to organise and run a car club. Without exception, it is the worst such organisation in the UK and the sooner people realise that and stop throwing their monies away, the better. ------------- 
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Posted By: PaulS
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 19:06
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From the letter that I got when the chairman of the drivers club passed away, it was disbanded as no-one wanted to take over the chairmanship, I'm pretty sure the BMWCC didn't take it over Paul -------------  95 E34 530i V8 Auto Maldives Blue |
Posted By: Rossi
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 19:13
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Nice one Jeff Spangle! I noticed that you got a plug in for this forum on the BMW Car Club forum, with this site's new web address... so, if people really do want assistance, fun and a warm welcome, they know where to come. It just shows you the mentality of it all, the thread has been locked...lol ------------- |
Posted By: Jeff Spangle
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 19:50
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I'm suprised it was only locked.
There seems to be a "oo, we daren't say to much" on the other forum. Everyone seems scared to say anything. Plus, the chairman/committee etc... are prasied at every point. I can't read it, all the treacle clogs my keyboard up. |
Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 19:58
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Treacle ?...thats cow poo Jeff I'm surprised it was only locked too, never mind, you can always start another & discuss
------------- Best Wishes Nigel |
Posted By: petecossie
Date Posted: 29-September-2006 at 22:04
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When the Drivers Club was wound up I think BMWCC obtained the membership list and sent out letters inviting BMWDC members to switch to the CC. I resisted at the time as I was sick of the politics from a few years previously with the M Power Club. I then actually took up membership again earlier this year as all seemed to be improving or so I thought. Little did I know! Within a week the kangeroo courts started and its seem they are still going on. I'll not be renewing next year for sure. ------------- Pete C 2000 Z3M Coupe, Cosmos Black Previous E28 528i Alpina, E28 M5 & M635 |
Posted By: steven.seed
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 00:11
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Thats rubbish, The main reason nothing is being said anymore is because most people just want to move on now. No disrespect to Killian and the guys but whats happened has happened and is not likely to change,and I'm sure that they will be the first to agree that in spite of whats happened people should not start slagging off the members in general because they choose to use the new forum or remain members of the club. The club has been around since 1952, long before most members were born. Chairmen and committees come and go and will continue to do so but the club will remain in some form or another. The situation has not stopped us using this forum if we want to and most of us do want to use it still . But rather than be sitting in front of my PC going over the same ground again and again I want to be discussing doing things with the club and people in the club who are my mates. Why not come and join us, tomorrow, Oulton Park BMW Kumho Championship. There is no chairman ,no committee. no forums, just a bunch of petrol heads who happen to be in the BMW car club having a good time watching some great motor racing. Thats what the club is about. Come and enjoy yourself, I know I will be. ------------- 1998 E36 318iS Saloon 1989 E30 318i. Coupe 2000 E39 520i Touring 
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Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 00:31
I don't.  ------------- Ciao, Spokey
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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 00:43
Nor me, the chairman has spoilt the club for me, why should I wish to move on and give him victory ?
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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 01:10
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I in all honesty have tried to move on. However, between letters and magazine articles containg blatant lies, solicitors letters demanding ridiculous things, apparent contact with BMW AG, expulsion, etc. Im finding it difficult to get past the hurdles being put in front of me. The chairman and secretary have overstepped the mark numerous times and the rest of the committee are sitting on their arses watching all of this and not taking the chairman to task over it is not acceptable to me. At this stage I have lost interest in the club as an organisation. I don't want to be a part of it bit Im not telling others what to do - I don't really care what happens it now. ------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual |
Posted By: Jeff Spangle
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 09:28
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For those that maybe interested, I'm teasing things here
http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=284&PN=2 - http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2 84&PN=2 Is it childish? Maybe, I don't care really. No one seems to dare to comment. Very odd. Some forum! ------------- http://www.jeffspangle.com/518/518e.jpg - E28 518i Lux |
Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 10:23
oooooh you bad bad boy...go stand in the corner and stare at the wall....the headmaster will call you in for a damn good caning shortly... 
------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Jeff Spangle
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 10:32
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Spank me hard, spank me soft
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 16:47
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Jeff Spankle? -------------
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Posted By: nero
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 16:54
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Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 16:59
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We are just used to your non constructive posts now Jeff ------------- Previous: E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets Current: 116i Sport F20 |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 17:06
Steven - I appreciate your balanced approach to this and your remarks that the heart of club membership / forum usage is about being BMW / car enthusiasts are laudable. That said, is it not also apparent to you that there is more to this than folk disagreeing over fora? Why have 2 BMWCC members been asked to attend a National Committee meeting to make representations that they should not be forcibly removed from the club? Why has the club chairman twice brought the matter up in print after it should have been laid to rest? Why has the 'disillusioned of Yorkshire' matter been handled in a way different from that in which it would have been handled in the past? I had in the past defended the club and thought tales passed on were exaggerated or due to personality clashes. They were not. There is something seriously wrong at the heart of the club. There has to be where 3 regions and a register that I know of are seriously disgruntled. -------------
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 17:14
Perhaps Jeff's posts don't light your fire Pete, but there was a point there... I have dealt with Andrew in the office a few times and we have got on well - what needed to be achieved was achieved. That said, the situation Andrew describes regarding Gaydon very much sounds like someone who took on too much. I have volunteered in the past to assist with a couple of things and this has never been taken up. I'm sure there are many folk who would not only have been willing, but also keen to step in and help had they only been asked. Frankly I'm always disappointed the Chairman schedules so much of his time to 'work' at Gaydon, rather I think it's his best and perhaps only chance to speak face-to-face to members outwith the NC and his own region, a chance missed every time I've been down  -------------
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Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 17:15
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What ones are those then? ------------- Previous: E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets Current: 116i Sport F20 |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 17:24
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That's not for online banter mate. I'll chat to you about it at the ABZ meet if you want... -------------
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Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 17:40
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Neither is half the crap that is getting posted here ------------- Previous: E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets Current: 116i Sport F20 |
Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 17:54
With all due respect Pete, if you don't appreciate what is here, why not stick to being a moderator on the opposing side. And before you say that you have friends here and you want to stay in touch, fine but don't be so disrespectful towards people here or what is posted here...afterall, how do you know that some of the stuff you posted in the past wasn't classed as crap by people here but they had the common courtesy to respect your opinion? One thing about being a moderator is that you respect everything/everyone, you show no bias and even if you feel that something posted is the biggest heap of <edit>drivel</edit> in the world you button your lip unless its breaking the forum rules. Its absolutely no secret that you wanted to be a moderator here and you failed, just cos you are one over the other board doesn't mean you can come over here and throw your weight about. Apologies to everyone else but its about time Pete that you reined your neck in mate, show a bit more respect and others will show respect to you...its still earned, not a right just cos you are staff on another site. At the end of the day, you made your choice as to who you were affiliating with....don't come on here and start putting people down cos they don't want to follow your breadcrumb trail to the other site. ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 17:59
Here as in this Topic,Not this forum
But thanks for your nice comments As for opposing side,i am a moderator on 2 BMW Related Forums,so what has that got to do with anything? ------------- Previous: E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets Current: 116i Sport F20 |
Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 18:15
..don't sit on the fence Pete, say what you mean. Everyone has a right to their opinion - just as you are, but saying half the posts on here are crap is going a bit too far as well as being un-constructive. How do you know they are? There are always two sides to every story.. Never presume the butler did it till you've read the full book. ------------- V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate J Reg Saab 900i 16v '63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe R reg Honda PC50 moped.. No BMW as yet... |
Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 18:22
Peter you are not a moderator here, so statements like that just prove the point that I made. You throw your weight about here, you are totally stuck into your own self importance...rein it in, you are an ordinary member here, you post crap sometimes....but as I said, those of us with more respect that you have in your little finger, read your opinion and don't disrepect it...even if we do disagree entirely with it. You haven't shown much, if any loyalty towards Killian or anyone else, so maybe its time you backed off on the holier than thou attitude, cos it ain't wanted here. ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 18:34
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@all - Play nice folks...
@Pete - I meant specifically that I choose not to discuss the details online rather than this was an inappropriate thread/forum for the discussion. -------------
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Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 18:57
 I always play nice Dunc ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Coasting
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 18:59
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Most moderators are fine. Some, well they're just cynical to the core, don't like to see more posts on one forum than on another and have a habit of sucking up to whatever body they think will be of more direct benefit to them. They demonstrate that with posts calling half the content of a forum they used to frequent regulary.."crap". Some people have opinions they'll stand for. Others, well they just blow with the direction of the wind. Thats life for you. If the Cap fits, put it in the boot of the 3-series Cab and you can use it for when the hood is down too. -------------
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Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 19:03
 ------------- Ciao, Spokey
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Posted By: Rossi
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 19:03
lol Coasting  ------------- |
Posted By: Coasting
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 19:06
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Furthermore, if half of what is on here is crap, then don't come here. You have the option of not reading it, surely that would be preferable from what you say? This whole sorry saga should be buried and I for one would like to see and end to threads that discuss it. They're not constructive, they don't get anywhere and they only serve to bring down what is the best BMW forum on the internet. Don't let them do it. Lock it and let them whinge about everything on their own forum, not this one. -------------
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Posted By: Coasting
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 19:08
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On a brighter note, thank feck my BMW days are numbered. You visit a forum to exchange views, ask advice, hopefully impart some and get a feeling of community. You get little of that these days with BMW forums. Such a shame. -------------
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Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 19:13
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I guess that proves one thing....there are a few here who have the same opinion of you Pete...just took a mere female to have the spherical objects to come out and say it...
As Coasting & I said...and others probably think...if you don't like the content here, don't open the book and read it.  ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 19:17
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On a brighter note, thank feck my BMW days are numbered. What's on the menu then, carwise? Aside from sportscars I can't think of many other marques with active forums and clubs and that. ------------- |
Posted By: Coasting
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 19:29
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997 ordered, with a very good unofficial club too, thankfully.
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Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 20:23
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Oh them lot.. If its the same gang of Geordie Porker owners that we whupped at karting then they're OK.. tell them I said hello.
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Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 20:29
good coming from a guy that was crying in his milk not that many months ago about folk on this forum and you were not coming back
every forum has there own little pack
@Goldryder..I certainly won`t loose any sleep over your comments as at least a large % off posts i made on this forum were BMW Related,as for giving Killian no support what a load of tosh I have always backed this forum since i joined (Look at my post count) and who was it that started selling club forum stickers to promote it (before the sh*t hit the fan)? That will be me then Its all pot kettle on this subject Club says one thing,you say another Grow up the lot of you anyway back on topic How did your meeting go Howard? ------------- Previous: E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets Current: 116i Sport F20 |
Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 20:46
Club saying one thing and us saying another is called freedom of speech and democracy Pete. We choose to back Killian, Howard and the others to the hilt. I dare say your 'boss' on the other side will fill you in with the details of the confidential meeting with Howard...and of course you will believe every word, afterall you have to, otherwise you wouldn't stay a mod for long over there now would you... Call me cynical but well..looks like you want your cake and eat it too...sorry buddy but as things stand you only stick around if the end result is good for you...the club boss/committee are boosting your sense of self importance now...but make sure you have something to fall back on cos one day they will shake you by the hand and stab you in the back with the other...just as they have with Killian, Howard, Nigel and the rest of the members of this site. ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 30-September-2006 at 21:02
Who would 'we' be? Oh and regarding all the work preparing for Gaydon - can you ask jeff or andrew why 30% or the attendance managed to get in without paying or getting a complimentary pass? Did someone take on too much that they couldn't get the work done?
Given that people here have not got the ability to use club funds to send out letters, nor have we a mag in which we can print blatant lies, what method would you suggest? I can appreciate that you are being loyal towards the club. Don't be blind though. I put a lot of time and effort into the club, like yourself. However, the carpet was pulled from under my feet without my knowledge. I had to meet jeff twice before he had the guts to tell me. Do not trust them! Anyhow Im going to lock this thread. Howard can start a new one with his news. ------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual |