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Topic: 740i sport - LSD fitted as standard?
Posted By: T.J.
Subject: 740i sport - LSD fitted as standard?
Date Posted: 26-October-2006 at 15:24

Howdy.

Thinking about changing to a big old 740i. the seller has it down as a Sport. There was a Sport model in the US, and it had a slippy diff as standard, as well as a lower final drive.

Does anyone know was there a 740i Sport model in the UK, and did it have a diff?

And of course, if anyone is interested in my motor, see my signature



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Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
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Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i



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Posted By: Dergside
Date Posted: 26-October-2006 at 15:35

TJ

There was a Sport model of the e38 available in the last few years of the model, from around '98 I think.  The main differences were the sport suspension, 18" Parallels (as per late e34 M5) and sports seats.  Don't think it had a slippy diff though.

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,14141-1113609,00.html - http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,14141-1113609,00 .html



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Posted By: Oisin
Date Posted: 26-October-2006 at 15:39

HAS marrige etc..made you change to a good sport saloonbiggrinbounce2biggrinbounce2biggrinbounce2biggrinbounce2biggrinbounce2biggrinbounce2LOL LOL

ONLY MESSIN TJ



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Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 26-October-2006 at 15:42

Tis a 98 "Sport" that tickles my fancy, Derg. The US Sport had a limmo ( http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/roadtests/pdf/2001_11_five_star_sedans.pdf - http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/roadtests/pdf/2001_11_fi ve_star_sedans.pdf ), but dunno did the UK one.

Do ya think the seller would mind if I jacked up both sides and turned the back wheels?  (And would this work with an Auto box?)

 



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Mazda 6 MPS
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Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
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Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i


Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 26-October-2006 at 15:43
Trips up to Wexford has, lad!! 3 jobs there now... tis a weekly commute this month.

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Mazda 6 MPS
S1 Elise 135 Sport
Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
http://www.bmwcarclubireland.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3254">

Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i


Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 26-October-2006 at 15:46
Just read your link Dergside; it mentions anthracite roof-lining if it's a sport. Looking at the sellers photos, it doesn't have that. Bummer anyway.

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Mazda 6 MPS
S1 Elise 135 Sport
Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
http://www.bmwcarclubireland.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3254">

Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i


Posted By: Oisin
Date Posted: 26-October-2006 at 15:46

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=526168 - http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=526168  tasty bus

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=505205hand - http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=505205hand money



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2006 VW Passat 1.9tdi
1995 E34 520i(M5)Sold.New classic required
Previous: 2004 Santa fee commercial - 2001 Saab 9-5 3.0,Tid - 1997 E39 525tds
                                                             


Posted By: .: KK 328Ci :.
Date Posted: 26-October-2006 at 16:27

Dont know the answer to your question, but it's gonna be juicy on the fuel and tax!  But I guess you know that.

Must be a silky smooth drive though.



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Posted By: Curley
Date Posted: 26-October-2006 at 16:37

Sure jack it up on the diff, spin a wheel and find out, damn thing might have being spec'ed with an LSD or if the owner allows do a donut on tarmac and count your rings !!! ( more fun with the latter....)  

 



Posted By: Dergside
Date Posted: 26-October-2006 at 17:12

TJ - is it the one in Clare on Carzone?  If so, then its an original Irish car and is doubtfully a Sport.  It has the right wheels but the seats don't look like the Sport variety.



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Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 26-October-2006 at 18:24

@ dergside - yup the one on Carzone. Rang him. He thinks it's a sport cos of the M steering wheel, the Parallels, & the M badge on the back. When I asked about the diff he didn't know what I was on about. He says tis an ex-demo irish car & he's 3rd owner. Just NCT'd. Looks savage inside & out.

I'm kinda tempted, but would miss a diff & manual. And i'd spend more time in the petrol forecourt (though with a near 100L tank, maybe not so much time as money)



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Mazda 6 MPS
S1 Elise 135 Sport
Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
http://www.bmwcarclubireland.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3254">

Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i


Posted By: flyingalexf68
Date Posted: 26-October-2006 at 18:39

TJ, how much fun is a 740 going to be at Mondello? That must be two tonnes and its a cruiser. Even with an lsd it would be a pig. Also I'd be sure the brakes would melt after two laps. If you're doing a lot of commuting buy a cheap car or van. I'm changing job soon and will have a company car. If I wasn't I'd be buying another '98/'99 Ford Fiesta. Great little car. Simple, cheap and fun to drive.

I've always been tempted by a 7 series or audi A8 but I'm too young. It would just look like I was driving my dads car. Keep a look out for a 540i manual sport spec if you want to go bigger.



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1995 e36 3.0 M3 Coupe, Daytona Violet, AP Racing BBK, CCFL Angel Eyes, M3 Spoiler, M-Tec 3 Steering Wheel.   
2000 530d Steptronic, Poverty Spec, 18" Alloys.


Posted By: BM Fan
Date Posted: 26-October-2006 at 19:52
Fine looking car - was nikasil an issue on those engines although judging by the age it should be out of that era.

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In BMW exile at the moment (Shame on me for lurking!!!)
Previous Models
2001 E39 520i Auto
1996 E36 M3 Evo Individual
1996 E36 328i Coupe
1997 E36 318i Conv
1992 E36 316i Sln



Posted By: jrafferty
Date Posted: 26-October-2006 at 20:10
If its handy fuel consumption your after i have a lovely little fiat seicento 1999 for sale with only 42k on the clock.only thing is its a sporting so it has the big engine

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Posted By: Oisin
Date Posted: 27-October-2006 at 08:59
Just go diesel for miles!! 42mpg on a 525tds theres plenty of cheap buses and You'd keep your own bus parked. or even a 520??

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2006 VW Passat 1.9tdi
1995 E34 520i(M5)Sold.New classic required
Previous: 2004 Santa fee commercial - 2001 Saab 9-5 3.0,Tid - 1997 E39 525tds
                                                             


Posted By: Oisin
Date Posted: 27-October-2006 at 09:06

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=510351 - http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=510351

same colour,half the price! just buy alloys.....728



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2006 VW Passat 1.9tdi
1995 E34 520i(M5)Sold.New classic required
Previous: 2004 Santa fee commercial - 2001 Saab 9-5 3.0,Tid - 1997 E39 525tds
                                                             


Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 27-October-2006 at 09:22

@ Alex: I'd be the opposite to you. The fact I'm doing miles means I WANT (well, am 25% considering..) a big cruiser, not something cheap / van etc.. whats the point in suffering more in something that's noisy, unsafe, and unpleasant to drive for the sake of a few quid? I want something big, refined, very safe, that'll allow me to drive for 3hrs, do a days work, and then drive 3hrs home with as little stress as possible.

The 740i ticks those boxes. I've had the use of my brothers 735i before and it was nice to punt along the back roads too. It wouldn't be much use around Mondello though. SO I'd have to chuck a towbar onto it for the car trailer & do up a trackcar. The thing is I dunno do I have time & funds for that. So I'm in a bit of turmoil, as I've been for a while about the trade-offs that my motoring entails. I'd miss working a manual box too when the going got twisty. E39 M5 seems the answer, but tis out of budget @ the mo. Ditto E46 M3.

And my M3 isn't bad for what i'm doing now either! Tis just after Wednesdays repeat commute up to Wexford in rank conditions, then sitting in Waterford Quay traffic for 40 mins with a tired left leg, and a winter of similar driving and 3 projects in Gorey/Enniscorthy on the go that'll occupy the next 2-3yrs, you begin to ponder these things.

Sometimes I wish i had a 9-5 office-based job. Until I look @ the expenses claims



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Mazda 6 MPS
S1 Elise 135 Sport
Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
http://www.bmwcarclubireland.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3254">

Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i


Posted By: Ben O Brien
Date Posted: 27-October-2006 at 12:55

Why dont you just keep the e36?? I was going to buy one purely for the fact that they are an all rounder as well as a sports car, but having not had one on a long journey are they not suitable??

I presume its for comfort you want to change yeah because the 740 will probably be doing the same or less mpg to the m and similar if not more expensive to run,

As alex suggested how about a late 535i/540i sport??



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96' M3 Saloon - Estoril Blue
94' M3 3.0 Convertible
91' E34 M5 - 3.6, Macau Blue

*E36 M3's Breaking*


Posted By: b318isp
Date Posted: 27-October-2006 at 14:22
Pick up an e34 525tds, Alfa 166, QX3.0 or Omega 2.5...?

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Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 27-October-2006 at 14:36

Done the E34 thing for over 50k

There's already an Alfa in the family (my wife has a 156 Sportwagon) and one is enough. We had 2 for a while & it was a disaster!

QX? Good God, Brendan....

Omega.. not a bad motor.

The M3 is a great alrounder Ben. But a 740i would be potentially alot sweeter for the majority of my motoring.

I'm only thinking out loud here too, lads. I'm always debating, regardless of how much I love the car I have!! I know come next april when the trackdays kick off, I'll be hankering after an M3 again.

Essentially, I need a Lotto win (Euro preferably) and a stable of cars.

And on a great note, my motor just sailed through the NCT. On a less great note, a bird shat on my head as I was crossing the road. But it hasn't dented my good form. (my B/H weekend started this morning)



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Mazda 6 MPS
S1 Elise 135 Sport
Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
http://www.bmwcarclubireland.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3254">

Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i


Posted By: flyingalexf68
Date Posted: 27-October-2006 at 15:15
Thats supposed to be good luck TJ. The M3 is not the best car for stop start traffic with the heavy clutch. I was stuck in it for nearly two hours coming out of Dublin today. Left foot is feeling the strain.

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1995 e36 3.0 M3 Coupe, Daytona Violet, AP Racing BBK, CCFL Angel Eyes, M3 Spoiler, M-Tec 3 Steering Wheel.   
2000 530d Steptronic, Poverty Spec, 18" Alloys.


Posted By: BM Fan
Date Posted: 27-October-2006 at 15:40
I know where you're coming from TJ, The M3 is great on a road where you can drive it but lets face it with the potholes, general surface condition, traffic and speed traps its getting harder to find them now.

That was the main reason that I got rid of the M, total frustration with stop go traffic and wincing every time I hit a bad patch of road.  I just went the complete cheapo route after that and got a Passat TDi sport estate. Comfortable, safe, AC and peanuts to run. €55 = 600 miles.

I'd say go for the 7, lets face it they are a 100k euro car new so where else will you get that kind of luxury for that price. I test drove a 728 before I bought the 328 and it was able to move when asked.


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Martin
In BMW exile at the moment (Shame on me for lurking!!!)
Previous Models
2001 E39 520i Auto
1996 E36 M3 Evo Individual
1996 E36 328i Coupe
1997 E36 318i Conv
1992 E36 316i Sln



Posted By: Richie
Date Posted: 27-October-2006 at 16:48
TJ,we've a nice 728i SE. Not a Sport but is lowered on 18" Parallels and has the m steering wheels etc.

http://www.accarsales.com - http://www.accarsales.com

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Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 27-October-2006 at 18:49

I was wonderin' how long it'd take ya!

Not so much go, but alot cheaper to run. Window tint is a bit OTT, and I'm not too gone on the black interior. It'd posibly give me more wedge to get a track car though... hmmm



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Mazda 6 MPS
S1 Elise 135 Sport
Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
http://www.bmwcarclubireland.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3254">

Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i


Posted By: Beemer Fan
Date Posted: 29-October-2006 at 14:49
I've got a plan, keep the m3 cos we know its a cracker, let the funds build up and buy a comfy cruiser, then you have the perfect track car and you can leave it at the ring next season and fly out once a month for about 60 bucks  

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X5
Evo 9
HD Dyna Glide


Posted By: Aidan316i
Date Posted: 29-October-2006 at 15:08
Heres an idea, buy yourself an E38 Alpina B12 (5.7 or 6.0) and use it as your big comfortable cruiser, and then have a few fun days on track! 

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E46 316i Saloon
E36 323i Touring


Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 30-October-2006 at 11:55

I was discussing with the missus, and she told me i was mad, that I should just buy an M-coupe next year when I can afford it, and then use hers for all the big miles stuff.

And was out in bros 735i there and was left a bit sad that that being refreshed and comfy might be the only thrill I'd get out of my main car.

So many ideas, so little money! Cheers for the input lads!

Leave it @ the 'Ring, eh Beemerfan?! Did ya see the gaff that's for sale on Ben Lovejoys Ring site? Tis for nothing, relatively speaking and considering the size of the garage. You'd make a decent few quid renting to Ringers...

 



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Mazda 6 MPS
S1 Elise 135 Sport
Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
http://www.bmwcarclubireland.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3254">

Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i


Posted By: Beemer Fan
Date Posted: 30-October-2006 at 14:45
Will have a look, 4 of my mates went out to buy a site from Sabine, but turned out to be .6 acres as opposed to the advertised 1.6 acres, no wander it was cheap lol Thing is i had a place booked in one of their garages.. bummer.. Anyway they rented a 325 coupe race car and had a right buzz instead!

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E46 M3
X5
Evo 9
HD Dyna Glide


Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 30-October-2006 at 17:59
0.6 acres ain't bad - just build 3 stories high!

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Mazda 6 MPS
S1 Elise 135 Sport
Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
http://www.bmwcarclubireland.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3254">

Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i


Posted By: irishwoody
Date Posted: 31-October-2006 at 11:57

Hi TJ,

Having one for the past 6 months - the big 7 is not a "fun" car as it is just under 2 ton - but it "eats up" motorway miles in a very comfortable and quiet cabin - the standard 740i poodles along at 75 to 80 mph doing about 2300 rpm so it good to listen to the radio in a relaxed atmosphere, yet when you want the power drop a gear or so, press the right foor and lsiten the v8 growl

ASAIK the sport model had a higher ratio diff so would be doing a few more revs at that speed - but I dont know if it was a lsd.

I get 22 mph average (26 on motorways and about 18 in town) without being too heavy on right foot.

The auto box while good is not half as engaging as a manual so I woudl deffinately want to have another car "for fun"



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'97 740
'97 523 For sale

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Posted By: Oisin
Date Posted: 31-October-2006 at 12:48

reliable,size of a bus and a legend! at affordable price

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=526825 - http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=526825



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2006 VW Passat 1.9tdi
1995 E34 520i(M5)Sold.New classic required
Previous: 2004 Santa fee commercial - 2001 Saab 9-5 3.0,Tid - 1997 E39 525tds
                                                             


Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 31-October-2006 at 12:57

Thanks for those figures, Woody.

@ Bimmer - not a bad notion but I want something newer & less exposure to large catastrophic failure than a 14yr old Legend.

Saw a super tasty '00 728i Sport with 82k on a UK site, for stg£7,500: that's €15,467 in & cleared. Not bad at all.

Picture of vehicle

Problem is, I saw a 99 Westfield for the same money & that got me thinking in another 2 car direction!

I best stop posting before ye think I'm skitzo.



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Mazda 6 MPS
S1 Elise 135 Sport
Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
http://www.bmwcarclubireland.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3254">

Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i


Posted By: unkel
Date Posted: 01-November-2006 at 12:22
I've had my '96 735i for nearly 3 years now. I can highly recommend it. Incredible value for money. The ultimate in comfort and still drives well, although it wouldn't be that suitable for a track, even with LSD

I'd go with a V8 735/740 rather than the 728. Shouldn't cost more to buy and the extra tax of €300 per year is well worth it imho. The M62 V8 engine is excellent and good for 400,000km. Mine's done over 130k miles now

Insurance should be low. When I bought mine, the insurance on the 735i V8 was less than a same value same year E39 523i :eek:

I bought mine with full BMWSH in immaculate condition for €11k when it was 7.5 years old. An equivalent S-class would cost nearly twice that at the time and that was the old ugly fat model :D

On a high mileage one, make sure the cats have been replaced. This is expensive. Also the 18" rims look nice but bursting a €300 tyre in a pothole makes baby Jesus cry...

<touches wood> Nothing has broken on mine except one electric window mechanism (cable snapped - wear 'n tear)</touches wood>


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