motec kit in this months Club mag
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Topic: motec kit in this months Club mag
Posted By: Dannyboy
Subject: motec kit in this months Club mag
Date Posted: 02-November-2006 at 18:11
I read this months article on the Motec engine mangement system with
interest. but is it really an improvement to ditch the whole intake system
when as i understand it only the afm is causing the restriction. replacing
the BMW desingned cold air intake system with a big chunk of foam and a
shiny bit of blue pipe that will draw its air off the back of the rad doesn't
seem like a wise move?
------------- 1992 clio 1.8 16V Good
1998 Subaru Impreza Turbo Terzo Great
1987 M3 Diamond Black Awesome (Now awesomer with Billys & Eibach)
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Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 02-November-2006 at 18:37
yep..its a bit max power looking!
I am sure there must be a way of routing the airflow properly using black Samco hose which would be much more in keeping with the cars pedigree.
Trouble is, the mapped cars I have seen have all used the same method with the loud intake hose and big foam filter.
Nick
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Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 02-November-2006 at 18:44
Dannyboy wrote:
I read this months article on the Motec engine mangement system with
interest. but is it really an improvement to ditch the whole intake system
when as i understand it only the afm is causing the restriction. replacing
the BMW desingned cold air intake system with a big chunk of foam and a
shiny bit of blue pipe that will draw its air off the back of the rad doesn't
seem like a wise move? |
you should ask people with the kit installed if they have been happy with the mapping....
------------- E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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Posted By: stevesingo
Date Posted: 02-November-2006 at 19:44
I have the kit and you are correct, the air filter arrangment is not the best idea so I elected not to have that filter and instead I modified an original airbox like this...
Once I was happy this was the way to go I puchased this...
And fitted it with a black hose...
I installed the kit myself but due to some quality issues I had to get Powerstation to map it.
All of the high load stuff was OK for fueling (haven't checked the ign adv, but I will!) but when I asked about the cold start, idle control ect I was told to "just mess about with it until is seems right"
Well I've messed a bit now and it drive OK.
If I were doing it again I would buy the ECU and I would modify my own loom (or an ebay spare) to make better use of all of the functions the ECU has. It would probably be cheaper too.
Steve
------------- 1990 Sport Evo No.47 Motec EMS
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Posted By: Dannyboy
Date Posted: 02-November-2006 at 20:29
The other thing is they tell you the cost of the kit, the fitting cost but no
mapping cost. stevesingo that does look a lot tidier.
------------- 1992 clio 1.8 16V Good
1998 Subaru Impreza Turbo Terzo Great
1987 M3 Diamond Black Awesome (Now awesomer with Billys & Eibach)
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Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 02-November-2006 at 21:29
I have driven Steve's car and that is one of the best (if not THE best) M3's I have driven so far!
Considering that he "fiddled" with the mapping on his own, the result is remarkable.
Some of the so called "experts" should have a look at his work to see how good a proper mapped car can drive and I suggest that some of these "experts" should be banned to go near a car while carrying a laptop. Not even to mention to be allowed to charge for their "work"
------------- E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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Posted By: stevesingo
Date Posted: 02-November-2006 at 22:28
UweM3 wrote:
I have driven Steve's car and that is one of the best (if not THE best) M3's I have driven so far!
Considering that he "fiddled" with the mapping on his own, the result is remarkable.
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Offers accepted
Steve
------------- 1990 Sport Evo No.47 Motec EMS
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Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 03-November-2006 at 06:38
stevesingo wrote:
UweM3 wrote:
I have driven Steve's car and that is one of the best (if not THE best) M3's I have driven so far!
Considering that he "fiddled" with the mapping on his own, the result is remarkable.
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Offers accepted
Steve |
I will start saveing...
------------- E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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Posted By: 215DMX
Date Posted: 03-November-2006 at 10:22
Yeah, me and Steve make great fiddlers...
I wasn't happy with my 'expert' tuned Motec, I re did the whole ignition map and fuling myself, it is way better. I do need some dyno time though to sort out the areas that you can't really get too while driving on the road...
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