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Topic: M3 on carzone
Posted By: Daveco
Subject: M3 on carzone
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 08:46
Has anyone in heard anything about this M3 or gone to have a look at it?
http://www.usedcars.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=261374 - http://www.usedcars.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& ;carID=261374

It's been up for months and the price has changed from €42K to €36k in  that time. I think this is the 3rd garage it's been in, so alarm bells are already ringing. Anyone had any dealings with the garage?



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present-'04 325ci sport
future-no house and a 5 car garage



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Posted By: Mick525i
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 09:02

I have bought 2 cars off Glen..... The first was a lemon as documented on this site, the second my current car is perfect.

I dont have any bad words for them. I think all car dealers are the same..... I never buy a car judged on the dealer. Just check the car out. I he wont or cant find any history or previous owner then walk away.

Mick

Acutally my sisters 525i came from Glen also. No problems there too.  (2 out of 3 aint bad)

 

Mick



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VW Golf Gti 2003


Posted By: BigPhil
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 09:12
The E46m M3's are going for nothing now.  High enough mileage on that, but still very cheap.  Youd get a 2003 one for €45k if you look around.


Posted By: ///M3Mick
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 09:43

Dude

Considering the nature of the car, if I was buying an M3 now, I would hang on for the right low mileage one.  That car doesn't even have full leather seats which I am sure is affecting the price.

As Phil says, hang on and spend a bit more for a better specced car with low mileage.

Mick



Posted By: Daveco
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 09:51
Originally posted by ///M3Mick ///M3Mick wrote:

Dude

Considering the nature of the car, if I was buying an M3 now, I would hang on for the right low mileage one.  That car doesn't even have full leather seats which I am sure is affecting the price.

As Phil says, hang on and spend a bit more for a better specced car with low mileage.

Mick



You're both right, though I've had no interest in the 325 so I'm now thinking of just trading it in against an M3 here. Silver's my preferred colour and all...


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past-01 318ci auto, '01 318ci
present-'04 325ci sport
future-no house and a 5 car garage


Posted By: topazman
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 10:19
I would check at the stealers about that car especially warranty work I think that car was in M&G in Milltown a few times and it might have got a new engine or two at some stage and if it is the same car it was trashed to its death most times by the owners who blew the engine once, just go in with the registration and ask nicely if they can give you any history on the car and that will put your mind at ease about it   

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Posted By: kdevitt
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 14:01
That car doesn't have its original engine either from what I've been told.

A friend in the car business told me to avoid that crowd like the plague...

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Posted By: BigPhil
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 14:06

Decent 02's are going for around €45k now, youd get one for €40k if you shop around.  They come down a lot in price, Id say if you wait a bit longer youll get a nice 03 for early 40's.



Posted By: AHEALY
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 14:19
yeah I had problems with an impreza I bought from them, ie radiator blew after a week and found, rad weld had been used to seal it, which got into the whole cooling system. Luckily enough pump wasn't affected up to the time I sold it. They just didn't want to know once they got my money. Gave me some crap about the car being a trade car, but I didn't buy it as a trade car and they certainly didn't mention it at the time I purchased it. My understanding was that there was 3 months warranty with it. I've learnt the hard way. Unless you buy from them with the cars full documented history, and get your warranty in writing, i'd stay clear of them too. 

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97 Subaru Impreza WRX Sport Wagon (sold)


Posted By: Mick525i
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 14:24

Originally posted by AHEALY AHEALY wrote:

yeah I had problems with an impreza I bought from them, ie radiator blew after a week and found, rad weld had been used to seal it, which got into the whole cooling system. Luckily enough pump wasn't affected up to the time I sold it. They just didn't want to know once they got my money. Gave me some crap about the car being a trade car, but I didn't buy it as a trade car and they certainly didn't mention it at the time I purchased it. My understanding was that there was 3 months warranty with it. I've learnt the hard way. Unless you buy from them with the cars full documented history, and get your warranty in writing, i'd stay clear of them too. 

To be honest Im not that suprised. As I said check the car not the dealer. But it looks too cheap to be true.

Any one asked them whats the story. They might tell the truth.

Mick



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BMW E21 318 1980
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VW Golf Gti 2003


Posted By: Dergside
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 14:59
A little o/t, but has anyone noticed how much '04 645Ci's have dropped off recently?  There are a number available from main or quite reputable dealers for well under 70k, only a couple of grand more than an M3 from a similar source.

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Posted By: lukeduke
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 18:36
there is also an  2005 m5 for €93k and was new at €150k... now thats in a dealer aswell... astonishing!!!!

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Posted By: Dergside
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 18:38

Originally posted by lukeduke lukeduke wrote:

now thats in a dealer aswell... astonishing!!!!

Not just any dealer, Des Cullen, a fairly reliable name in high end tackle.



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Posted By: lukeduke
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 18:55
my aim in 2 years is to have a 2005/2006 m5... god its gonna be a long wait!!!

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Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 20:01
hubba hubba... new M5 is savage.

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Posted By: Edel
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 22:04

Hi Guys, Just to let you all know I bought a 03 M3 convertible from Glen, got it checked out in Frank Kean motors and it checked out 100%. I have had no problems with the car it’s a dream to drive!

I have recommended Glen to a friend of mine and she was very happy with the service she received their too. I look forward to dealing with Glen again.

 



Posted By: flyingalexf68
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 22:21
That reg 02 MH 343 seems to be one to avoid. I've seen bad posts about it
before. I'd really check the history to be sure though. Where did your car end
up Luke?

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2000 530d Steptronic, Poverty Spec, 18" Alloys.


Posted By: lukeduke
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 22:31
@ Alex... its in a garage in Bluebell at the moment, advertised with 6k less than what is on the clock.... it's on carzone!

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2004 M3 CS.
Current:
2007 318D SE SALOON.


Posted By: lukeduke
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 22:34
as for that 02 M3, i'd stay well away, the milage is very high and the spec is?????? well there is no spec, its bog standard... i'm sure if you are patient Dave you willget a much better one for much the same €€€€€€€!

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2004 M3 CS.
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2007 318D SE SALOON.


Posted By: flyingalexf68
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 22:38
Bloody dealers. Not to slag but "every concievable extra" would include sat
nav.

Dave, try trade yours in against Lukes old car. You might get a good price.
Less miles and a better history. And he only drove around Mondello like a
Mary.

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1995 e36 3.0 M3 Coupe, Daytona Violet, AP Racing BBK, CCFL Angel Eyes, M3 Spoiler, M-Tec 3 Steering Wheel.   
2000 530d Steptronic, Poverty Spec, 18" Alloys.


Posted By: lukeduke
Date Posted: 05-February-2007 at 22:45
it actually does have every extra ticked on the car for its year, remember its a 2001 !!! i must admit i do rather love my car too much to thrash it around any track!!! i prefer to enjoy the speed without takin chances, so i'm a mary then!!!

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2004 M3 CS.
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Posted By: BigPhil
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 07:50

Dave, if your interested, a friend of mine is selling a mint 2004 M3, carbon black, 35,000 miles, all extras, 19's etc...........and like new, he keeps it mint.

He's looking for €50,000, but would take €45k if offered.  Thats a fair price i think.

Cheers.



Posted By: Daveco
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 08:19
Thanks for the info lads, It was more impatience than anything that made me consider the silver one! I thought about buying Luke's motor, but I see it nearly everyday being hooned around the walkinstown area, according to their info on carzone they've clocked it too! Phil I'll PM you about the your friends' M3-

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present-'04 325ci sport
future-no house and a 5 car garage


Posted By: ///M3Mick
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 08:39

Dave

As an owner of an E46 M3 for 1.5 years now, I can categorically state it is not the type of car to get impatient about buying.  Unless you are buying from a BMW dealer or a quality independent that you can trust, you HAVE to get the car properly checked out.  Make sure it has had ALL regular services and has had all necessary recalls done (eg the rod end bearing recall, the diff problems, if its past inspection 1 make sure the tappets were adjusted etc etc).  If these have not been done you will be looking at major bills in the future.

Not meaning to scare you off or anything and a lot of the above advice goes really for any car purchase, but the costs of getting it wrong with an M-car are so much more.

Mick



Posted By: Daveco
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 09:06
Thanks for the advice Mick, I've been gathering as much info as possible on the M3, and have approached a company called carsource about helping me look over in the U.K. for suitable cars also. They seem to know their stuff and have been very helpful thus far. Though I've heard that VRT has gone up on german marques that are 4 years or older, due to the increased amount that are being imported in, so I might buy an Irish reg M after all. 

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present-'04 325ci sport
future-no house and a 5 car garage


Posted By: lukeduke
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 12:04
Originally posted by Daveco Daveco wrote:

Thanks for the info lads, It was more impatience than anything that made me consider the silver one! I thought about buying Luke's motor, but I see it nearly everyday being hooned around the walkinstown area, according to their info on carzone they've clocked it too! Phil I'll PM you about the your friends' M3-
if it was being hooned around the walkinstown area it was'nt me cause i only took the car out once a week as i have other transport for work!!!  its a very good low milage very high spec M3, its well worth a look, beware i traded it in with 56, 150 miles on it...i do not think they have clocked it tho!!!!

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2004 M3 CS.
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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 12:11
Is it on carzone Luke?

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Posted By: lukeduke
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 12:13
Originally posted by BigPhil BigPhil wrote:

Dave, if your interested, a friend of mine is selling a mint 2004 M3, carbon black, 35,000 miles, all extras, 19's etc...........and like new, he keeps it mint.

He's looking for €50,000, but would take €45k if offered.  Thats a fair price i think.

Cheers.

  i must say that is a very cheap car, DAVE you should take his hand off aswell!!!

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2004 M3 CS.
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2007 318D SE SALOON.


Posted By: lukeduke
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 12:14
Originally posted by kbannon kbannon wrote:

Is it on carzone Luke?
yes, in a garage in bluebell!!!

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2004 M3 CS.
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2007 318D SE SALOON.


Posted By: Daveco
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 12:20
Originally posted by lukeduke lukeduke wrote:

Originally posted by BigPhil BigPhil wrote:

Dave, if your interested, a friend of mine is selling a mint 2004 M3, carbon black, 35,000 miles, all extras, 19's etc...........and like new, he keeps it mint.

He's looking for €50,000, but would take €45k if offered.  Thats a fair price i think.

Cheers.

  i must say that is a very cheap car, DAVE you should take his hand off aswell!!!


It is cheap, but the 325 I have now is only worth €39k at the most, if only I could find atleast 6k and someone to buy my motor I would be laughing! I am slightly tempted to go to that garage selling your car Luke and see what trade in they offer me...


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present-'04 325ci sport
future-no house and a 5 car garage


Posted By: lukeduke
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 13:51
well Dave you should be looking at a straight swap if you ask me!!! but with my experience with dealers, that wont happen, they will want something off you which is crazy!!! your car should be worth a little more than mine, i let mine go for 36k in the end.

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2004 M3 CS.
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Posted By: lukeduke
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 13:54
by all means go to the garage selling my old one and take it from there, take it for a spin and haggle like crazy, as there is so many m3's now avaliable he wont shift it to easy... take your time and dont be hasty... good luck, you will love the m3, amazing to drive!!!

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2004 M3 CS.
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Posted By: Kin Mak
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 14:24

Originally posted by Daveco Daveco wrote:

...and have approached a company called carsource about helping me look over in the U.K. for suitable cars also. They seem to know their stuff and have been very helpful thus far.

I know Paul at Carsource and they do know their cars, he used to own a E39 M5 and actually bought his a week after mine. Paul actually tried to buy my car but I got there first.



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Posted By: Daveco
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 14:33
Luke, anything I need to know before i go up and have a look at your old motor? e.g. rod end bearing recall, diff problems, tappets adjusted etc etc, basically what Mick said in an earlier post! 

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present-'04 325ci sport
future-no house and a 5 car garage


Posted By: ///M3Mick
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 15:52

Dave

Of the cars mentioned on the thread, I reckon Phil's sounds the best value.  2004 vs 2001 with less mileage for a few k extra?

Plus the 2004 engines werent subject to the rod end bearing problem and didnt need the engine rebuild.

Mick



Posted By: lukeduke
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 16:07
Originally posted by Daveco Daveco wrote:

Luke, anything I need to know before i go up and have a look at your old motor? e.g. rod end bearing recall, diff problems, tappets adjusted etc etc, basically what Mick said in an earlier post! 
can't really answer all them??? Frank Keane's could tho!! at first i did have a slightly noisey diff... got the diff oil changed and for the next 18 months that i had it, not a pip out of it!!!

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2004 M3 CS.
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2007 318D SE SALOON.


Posted By: Mick525i
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 20:46

 

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VW Golf Gti 2003


Posted By: touring paddy
Date Posted: 06-February-2007 at 21:47

hey luke well done on the new motor ,

isnt this your car ? was up there today looking at the 03 M3 they have , he told me he sold yours? yesterday to a guy in cork , said he bought it in the trade from autoquest !! note its advertised as 50k on the clock now !!

 

cheers

 



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Posted By: Garbo
Date Posted: 07-February-2007 at 12:33
Originally posted by ///M3Mick ///M3Mick wrote:

Dave

As an owner of an E46 M3 for 1.5 years now, I can categorically state it is not the type of car to get impatient about buying.  Unless you are buying from a BMW dealer or a quality independent that you can trust, you HAVE to get the car properly checked out.  Make sure it has had ALL regular services and has had all necessary recalls done (eg the rod end bearing recall, the diff problems, if its past inspection 1 make sure the tappets were adjusted etc etc).  If these have not been done you will be looking at major bills in the future.

Not meaning to scare you off or anything and a lot of the above advice goes really for any car purchase, but the costs of getting it wrong with an M-car are so much more.

Mick

Hi Mick,

My '02 M3 is still under warranty for the next 3 months with Maxwell's, is there anything specific i should ask them before the warranty expires? These recalls you mention, I have never herad of them, should the garage have done them before selling the car on or is it something I have to specifically ask about, buyer beware type of thing?

If it's the latter, buyer beware, I would appreciate if you could post any specific recalls or known issues that I should ask about, or anything at all you can think of for that matter as I'm dropping her in for an Oil inspection next week.

By the way do Maxwells still give a 10% discount on consumables? Does that apply to servicing consumables? 

Thanks for your advice.

P.S that's a savage new car you got yourself Lukeduke!

 



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Posted By: lukeduke
Date Posted: 07-February-2007 at 13:05
cheers Garbo!!!

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Previous:
2001 M3
2004 M3 CS.
Current:
2007 318D SE SALOON.


Posted By: ///M3Mick
Date Posted: 07-February-2007 at 17:37

Garbo

This site details all the issues

http://m3.madrussian.net/faq.shtml#28 - http://m3.madrussian.net/faq.shtml#28

Main one is the engine bearing recall.  This applied to all cars up to and including late 2003.  My car was registered in OCtober 2003 and it had to have it.  Its major work, and I can't imagine you have a warrantied/fbmwsh car that wouldnt have had it done.  Its worth checking though just to be sure.

The other item that fails regularly on the cars is the diff.  You would have noticed this by now as a groaning/rumbling noise from the rear of the car on slow tight turns and parking manoevres.

Aside from this there is nothing else major thats a particular failing of the car that I can think of.

Mick



Posted By: Garbo
Date Posted: 07-February-2007 at 17:48

Thanks Mick, I really appreciate all that Info, with regards to the Diff, would the groaning/rumbling noise be permanent or occasional?

I have heard a clunking noise during slow parking manouvres, when i switch from 1st the reverse or vice versa as the car begins to move, have heard it a fair few times, could this be an indicator the the diff is going, or do they just 'go'?

Thanks again for your help.



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Posted By: lukeduke
Date Posted: 07-February-2007 at 17:58
that link is well worth a look... interesting stuff!!!!

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Previous:
2001 M3
2004 M3 CS.
Current:
2007 318D SE SALOON.


Posted By: lukeduke
Date Posted: 07-February-2007 at 18:01
Originally posted by Garbo Garbo wrote:

Thanks Mick, I really appreciate all that Info, with regards to the Diff, would the groaning/rumbling noise be permanent or occasional?

I have heard a clunking noise during slow parking manouvres, when i switch from 1st the reverse or vice versa as the car begins to move, have heard it a fair few times, could this be an indicator the the diff is going, or do they just 'go'?

Thanks again for your help. i had the exact same problem with my old one.. got the diff oil changed under warranty and the problem was solved!!!



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Previous:
2001 M3
2004 M3 CS.
Current:
2007 318D SE SALOON.


Posted By: ///M3Mick
Date Posted: 07-February-2007 at 18:19

Garbo

Its not a "clunking" as such.......its like a groaning rubbing sound (LOL I'm waiting for all the finbar saunders types to chime in here) that you here when turning.

Clunking when moving from gear to gear is pretty normal.....the M3's gearbox does that a lot. 

Chances are you would have heard this if its a problem for your car.

mick



Posted By: BM Fan
Date Posted: 08-February-2007 at 10:19
Great link - saved that one for future reference 

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1996 E36 M3 Evo Individual
1996 E36 328i Coupe
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Posted By: US M3
Date Posted: 29-March-2007 at 23:55

Originally posted by kdevitt kdevitt wrote:

That car doesn't have its original engine either from what I've been told.

A friend in the car business told me to avoid that crowd like the plague...

A customer of mine bought a Lovely Steel Grey 3 series coupe of Glenn Walker last August, he swore he would touch up the paint and a few other jobs also, he has called and called this guy, he spoke to Glenn himself and they have done nothing for him at all, they have been blanking him for 8 months now, I would avoid this crowd like the plauge, I must get him to call them again as we were only talking about Glenn Walker today, I was giving him Alan Carroll's details as he wanted a good Indy BMW specialist to do the jobs Glenn Walker is blanking him on.



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2008 BMW 520D M SPORT


Posted By: 635CSi
Date Posted: 30-March-2007 at 11:42
Personally I would avoid all those dealers around the Naas road area, they just seem way to dodgy!! You'd be even safer buying privately than buying off those dealers. I'd recommend if your budget allows buy off a BMW dealer, Frank Keane have a 2001 Phoenix Yellow M3 with full black leather and low mileage and you'll have peace of mind which is the most important thing. BTW I would avoid the 19" upgrade alloys because apparently they make the car less engaging to drive. http://www.usedcars.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& ;carid=613346



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