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Topic: An Garda getting BMWs
Posted By: unkel
Subject: An Garda getting BMWs
Date Posted: 27-February-2007 at 16:12
The Gardaí have purchased 15 BMWs, 318s, 525is and 530ds

Heard it through the grapevine...



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Posted By: m3sport
Date Posted: 27-February-2007 at 16:26
Where in the country was this purchase that you have heard of? Glad to see their making good use of the tax payers money for a change, and not buying heaps of crap like fiat etc etc

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Posted By: Curley
Date Posted: 27-February-2007 at 16:28

Yeah my friend got done by one down in wicklow at the week-end... 3 series in a wine colour, Didn't take much more notice than that.

He's not a happy camper



Posted By: dryle
Date Posted: 27-February-2007 at 16:34

it was said in the paper a yr or 2 that they were going to go for marque makes for traffic corps after the 2 garda officers were killed in the crash with the mx5, they have been using saab for a while now.

about time rather than the asian heaps of tin



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Posted By: Curley
Date Posted: 27-February-2007 at 16:49

Well, it's going to make the garda auctions a bit more interesting again. They've a vast array of motors at the moment, guess they're just following the trends of the UK police.   

It was a current shape Ford Mondeo those lads got killed in and hoestly had little chance in a side impact. 



Posted By: m3sport
Date Posted: 27-February-2007 at 20:09
Yeah that was a shocking blow to the side, at least now they will have a little more protection in a good german piece of engineering, more to the point, now they stand some chance of catchin us heavy footers hehe!!!!  Not me of course i speak for others :-)

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Posted By: GS.ie
Date Posted: 28-February-2007 at 09:50
Originally posted by dryle dryle wrote:

 they have been using saab for a while now.

 

One Saab only. And its a ball of dung.... no room in the rear for anyone except kids !



Posted By: green-blood
Date Posted: 28-February-2007 at 10:09

eh, are you guys for real

that mx-5 was doing 80 goof old mph when it hit that mondeo... your pretty stuffed in any saloon car, certainly no safer had they been in a 5 series.



Posted By: m3sport
Date Posted: 28-February-2007 at 12:04
Yeah of course at that speed a side impact is irrelevant no matter what car you are in.  I wasnt specifically referring to that one incident dough! My point (Green-blood) being that they are safer in any BMW than those heaps they used to buy from Fiat! They used use cars such as fiesta's, punto's, bravo's, blah blah blah......I mean come on, true for Curley, they are following the trend of the Uk Police. They should have had decent cars for years now like, well over due!

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Posted By: green-blood
Date Posted: 28-February-2007 at 12:25

yeah but only for pursuit work,

the tool should fit the job, do community gardai need anything more than a small hatch - no, should anything other than vans be used to lift bods - no, should they have properly capable road traffic and pursuit vehicles - yes (with training)

that is all



Posted By: m3sport
Date Posted: 28-February-2007 at 13:38

 

So in that case why in the past have i seen small brittle garda cars doing speed checks???  Come on, any garda car faces the threat of having to take persuit!!!!!! Therefore, all their cars should be worthy.  Small community garda cars should be as safe as any other garda car.

Was not talking about vans atall.....



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Posted By: flyingalexf68
Date Posted: 28-February-2007 at 20:26
Originally posted by green-blood green-blood wrote:

should they have properly capable road traffic and
pursuit vehicles - yes (with training)


With training? Do the Gardai get ANY training behind the wheel?

I was pulled in by a **** of a garda in a black Camry on the M50. It would
probably make more commercial sense to have bought a 3 Series instead. It
would have a higher resale price then the Camry therefor potentially SAVING
tax payers money.

(note: I never got a ticket or court appearence as the garda was in the
wrong)

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Posted By: Mick525i
Date Posted: 28-February-2007 at 20:36

They dropped the SAAB. IT didnt work out. I used to do abit of work over in Garda HQ and it was handy to see what cars they were using.

Hyundi Accents

Rover 216 etc

O and Fiat Tempra diesels. 1 of which got me in Wexford some years back

 

Mick



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Posted By: beemerchris
Date Posted: 28-February-2007 at 22:32

They use some Volvos as well. Got pulled a while ago from a S60 T5 after stupidly tailing him up the road. He pulled from the nextlight like a racer and as he couldn't shake me off on went the lights.

Left me off however after a right b.l.king



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Posted By: dryle
Date Posted: 01-March-2007 at 10:13

Originally posted by flyingalexf68 flyingalexf68 wrote:

Originally posted by green-blood green-blood wrote:

should they have properly capable road traffic and
pursuit vehicles - yes (with training)


With training? Do the Gardai get ANY training behind the wheel?

I was pulled in by a **** of a garda in a black Camry on the M50. It would
probably make more commercial sense to have bought a 3 Series instead. It
would have a higher resale price then the Camry therefor potentially SAVING
tax payers money.

(note: I never got a ticket or court appearence as the garda was in the
wrong)

they are supposed to have proper training but going by the rumours out there Gardai personnel have higher insurance premiums for their personal insurance.

father inlaw works for customs and he was trained by the gards on the border for speed training and jesus he is getting a bit doddery as he leaves it until the last minute to brake,(think of Pheobe from friends driving the taxi).

they should send them to the uk to be trained for high speed pursuits, then again werent they banned from chasing stolen cars as the number of accidents and people killed from the morons stealing the cars.



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Posted By: beemerchris
Date Posted: 01-March-2007 at 14:32

Very good piont if they hit someone or the car they chase ploughs int another caar pedestrian etc the whole country would roar in disgust.

Other countries e.g. Germany contact inforcements and close the road ahead than put spikes out or set up a road block to stop perpetraders. So there is never a high speed chase over there. However the whole atttude towards the cops is very different over there. Not sure if the criminals here will give a toss about the law or the people who try to implement it or the public as a whole in the forseable future. Chasing them however will make things worth IMHO



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Posted By: Oisin
Date Posted: 01-March-2007 at 16:18

Oiiiihh who saying what about SAAAAB'S...They aint that bad.



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Posted By: topazman
Date Posted: 01-March-2007 at 21:53
Alot of lads in the Traffic have driving courses completed and those that don't are not let loose in the higher powered cars or new ones until they complete a car course, alot of other Government agencies have nice high powered cars also  

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Posted By: 635CSi
Date Posted: 01-March-2007 at 22:53
Well in fairness the BMW 3 Series driver is the new Mondeo Man considering the 3 Series has outsold the Mondeo for a few years now. Are you sure they are 525i's because the 525i is about to be replaced by the 528i when the facelift model goes on sale unless they are getting a good deal on end of the line old models.


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Posted By: Gars Estoril
Date Posted: 02-March-2007 at 19:57
I've just heard that they have Bm's now! Was a bit shocked when I was told!
And don't forget to look out for the Subaru foresters!(Wish I Did)

I was told a while back they used to have a fleet of Sierra Cosworth's??? Needless to say they all got written off!

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Posted By: topazman
Date Posted: 02-March-2007 at 21:56
They never had cossies

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Posted By: irelandoffline
Date Posted: 02-March-2007 at 22:04
Boys in Blue get luxury BMW


This is the top of the range new weapon in the garda battle against car crime ? the BMW 530d.

Gardai have taken delivery of 15 new high end BMWs ? 530ds and 525is ? in the past few days and the vehicle are currently being kitted out for service at a garage in Offaly.

Most of the new cares, which cost up to ?70,000 a piece, are specifically bought to help Gardai in high speed chases on the M1, M6 and M7 motorways.

The 530d can go from 0 to 60 in seven seconds and has a top speed of 240kph ? around 20kph than the criminals car of the choice the Lexus 430.

The cars are currently the vehicle of choice for traffic police with the London Metropolitan Police. The new BMWs are today being given garda livery and are being fitted withteh forec?s telecommunications system. They will be deployed in the coming weeks.

A garda spokesman confirmed that the force had taken delivery of the vehicles and that they were being worked on to prepare them for deployment.






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Posted By: GusK
Date Posted: 10-March-2007 at 13:27
Originally posted by irelandoffline irelandoffline wrote:

Boys in Blue get luxury BMW

Most of the new cares, which cost up to ?70,000 a piece, are specifically bought to help Gardai in high speed chases on the M1, M6 and M7 motorways.




Just saw an unmarked 530d Touring 07-D-144XX on Merrion Square. 

The car was Deep Green Metallic and had the flashing lights really nicely hidden in the front grill.

Dunno how much high speed chasing will be going on in Merrion Sq though!



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Posted By: 635CSi
Date Posted: 10-March-2007 at 22:24
<Quote>Gardai have taken delivery of 15 new high end BMWs ? 530ds and 525is<Quote>

This is what the government are spending our hard earned money on


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Posted By: Kin Mak
Date Posted: 11-March-2007 at 02:07

I don't think it is that a waste of money. I am sure they are much better suited to the job than the pieces of crap the Gardi are driving in now. What I am pissed off is what all those ministers spend they money on.

Also get the roads fixed, it is freegin annoying I am swerving around everywhere trying to avoid potholes. I could bury a dead cat in the size of the potholes littered all over the city.

Rant over.



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Posted By: Mick525i
Date Posted: 12-March-2007 at 15:23

Lets hope they dont end up like this....

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Mick



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Posted By: UJM3
Date Posted: 12-March-2007 at 15:32
Have gardai ever been given a rwd car in recent years? most of them struggle with fwd..


Posted By: 635CSi
Date Posted: 13-March-2007 at 18:01
I'd say in a years time they will be in bits, all battered with scuff marks all over them like typical Garda Mondeos

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Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 13-March-2007 at 20:39

Originally posted by 635CSi 635CSi wrote:


This is what the government are spending our hard earned money on

yes it is - don't you think it's worthwhile? They're doing a job, they deserve the tools. And being on the road, they deserve a decent and safe 'office' environment.



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Posted By: kdevitt
Date Posted: 13-March-2007 at 20:50
Originally posted by T.J. T.J. wrote:

Originally posted by 635CSi 635CSi wrote:

This is what the government are spending our hard earned money on


yes it is - don't you think it's worthwhile? They're doing a job, they deserve the tools. And being on the road, they deserve a decent and safe 'office' environment.



Fully agree - some of the current vehicles they have aren't up to the task.

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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 13-March-2007 at 20:58
Don't the traffic corps have pretty much their choice of cars? Quality or safety never really came into it AFAIK.


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Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 14-March-2007 at 08:53

Dunno Killian. But they've had Volvos & Saabs, they're safe cars. Subarus have a high degree of active safety. BMWs are.

Do they have a car evaluation process like they do in the UK for stopping distances, handling when laden with Police kit, performance etc..?

Octavia vRS estates would be another good motor; the previous one was very highly rated by UK police. A mates vRS MkI that was on track @ the VIP day had incredible brakes - stopped like hitting a wall time after time and pedal stayed firm with little fade. I was impressed.



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Posted By: Mick525i
Date Posted: 14-March-2007 at 09:05

I saw a LS reg Mondeo pulling a chap in a red golf yesterday on the protlaiose by-pass. I thouhgt all Garda cars had D reg???

It had blues in the grill and went past me well over the ton..

Whats the story? its getting harder to spot them all the time.

Mick



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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 14-March-2007 at 09:16
Mick - I heard tales on boards.ie of gardai pulling people whilst driving NI registered cars!

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Posted By: Mick525i
Date Posted: 14-March-2007 at 09:18

Originally posted by kbannon kbannon wrote:

Mick - I heard tales on boards.ie of gardai pulling people whilst driving NI registered cars!

Very suspect.



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Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 14-March-2007 at 10:22

Sounds a bit mad alright! And very devious. All the NI cars I see around the place are hosing it.

To be honest, it must be a right pain being a youngfella trying to break the law all the time for cheap, dangerous thrills. I'm glad I broke the 30yr mark, am more sensible, & have a wife who tells me to go slow. God help me if we have kids - I'll be the worst traffic cop I know.



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Posted By: 635CSi
Date Posted: 14-March-2007 at 15:41


[/QUOTE]
yes it is - don't you think it's worthwhile? They're doing a job, they deserve the tools. And being on the road, they deserve a decent and safe 'office' environment.[/QUOTE]

I suppose it is, I'm just a bit jealous. It will save alot of money in tyre bills from the swap to rear wheel drive.

[/QUOTE] Dunno Killian. But they've had Volvos & Saabs, they're safe cars. Subarus have a high degree of active safety. BMWs are. [/QUOTE]

They've had Saabs before and apparently Subarus but they've never had Volvos, the UK have Volvo S60 and V70 T5s which may be front wheel drive but they still have a lot of pace.




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Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 14-March-2007 at 15:58
I've seen S40s in Garda colours... maybe not the Traffic Corps though.

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Posted By: Dergside
Date Posted: 14-March-2007 at 16:08

Originally posted by T.J. T.J. wrote:

I've seen S40s in Garda colours... maybe not the Traffic Corps though.

There is a traffic corp S40 to be seen regularly on the M4 around Enfield.



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Posted By: Dalts
Date Posted: 14-March-2007 at 17:39
I think I know where these Cars are being 'kitted out for Service'...I must make some enquiries.

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Posted By: 635CSi
Date Posted: 14-March-2007 at 18:18
Originally posted by T.J. T.J. wrote:

I've seen S40s in Garda colours... maybe not the Traffic Corps though.


Really? I never knew they had Volvo's at all and I'm a self confessed Volvo nut! I'd say they were 1.8s, I've driven one and they are quite nippy, based on the Focus chassis so that means they have good handling


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Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 15-March-2007 at 09:15
Yup, there are a few knocking about alright - they look well. I've never seen V50s which I think would be mint all livered up, but the new style S40s are around alright.

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Posted By: 635CSi
Date Posted: 15-March-2007 at 18:02
I never thought we'd see the day when the gardai use Volvo's, the S40 is a grand car though, much better than the bland original which was based on the Mitsubishi Carisma

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Posted By: US M3
Date Posted: 29-March-2007 at 23:05

I seen one of the undercover BM's today on the Dublin side of Arklow, it was a gun metal grey 4dr 318i, 07 D 18898



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