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Topic: Comedy Insp I Comparison Shopping
Posted By: Webdunk
Subject: Comedy Insp I Comparison Shopping
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 13:50
Last Green light disappeared on the way to Moffat. So far we have :

Parks Glasgow £602.56 (I checked they had heard Insp I not II and that we were talking about an E36 and not anything more modern...)

Newmarket Engineering (Stirling) £364.25 (Seems realistic and they come highly recommended)

BMW Car Specialists Ibrox £188.00 (Sounds awffy cheap?)



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Posted By: muppet 2
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 13:58
 Well I have to ask , have you asked Davie at BM motors

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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 14:15
Davy means a day off work for me...

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Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 15:02

BMW Car Specialists Ibrox £188.00

 

Does sound  cheap,but its only a oil change and filter and a going over,so maybe they price it more like an interim service

Maybe worth seeing if there is anyway of seeing there Inspection sheet first to compare with dealer checks

 

And what oil do they use?

 

 



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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 15:11
Interesting p.o.v. Pete - I asked a BMW specialist for an Insp I quote so I can only go on the assumption that I would get the full Insp I checklist. He did state that for M cars they had to use the dearer Oil so the quote was higher than their advertised 'standard rate'.

The Stirling mob actively got out the service schedule and checked the items expected of them for an Insp I before quoting.

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Posted By: Big Stuff
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 16:23

Dunc,

Guy in Ibrox only uses gen BM parts and oils. I checked this when he did my 330 (i paid £141 which sounded too cheap also - he did'nt charge a 6 cly premium and used Shell Helix fully synth oil).

Only thing he did'nt do in the price was change microfilter.

As i reported previously i was more than pleased with the work, service and explainations. Like you i went there over Davie just for convenience as i had some business in the city.



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Posted By: Chas C
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 17:04

It's worth pointing out that the main difference between an oil service, insp I and insp II is just time.  Indeed, even half the cost of an oil service is time since the oil and filters should come in around £50.

I don't recall any additional bits being changed as part of the inspection criteria.

I'd guess what we are seeing above is the difference between £100+/hr for the dealer, £50/hr at Stirling and a good bit less at Ibrox for a 4 hour inspection.  Incidentally Dunk, do all quotes include VAT?



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Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 19:26
Originally posted by Chas C Chas C wrote:

It's worth pointing out that the main difference between an oil service, insp I and insp II is just time.  Indeed, even half the cost of an oil service is time since the oil and filters should come in around £50.

 

Dont forget a BMW Insp 2 also has

Spark plugs
Fuel filter
Air filter
BMW Approved Differential oil
BMW approved Gear box oil

 

so that would be slighly more than just extra labour charge compared to Insp 1



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Previous:

E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv
E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets

Current:
116i Sport F20


Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 19:28

Found this on there site Dunk so sounds genuine

 

All servicing is carried out is in accordance with the manufactures service schedule. We only fit BMW service parts and use manufactures grade oil. This allows us to stamp your service book and protect the manufactures warranty.



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Previous:

E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv
E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets

Current:
116i Sport F20


Posted By: bryce86
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 20:15

That seems a great price!  Iv been quoted £160 for just an oil service on mine.

Would be interesting to see how much an Inspection II is, from other forums Iv heard people paying anything from £650 to £1200 (!!).

Out of interest Dunc, many miles has the GT done?



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Posted By: stevie53
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 20:24
Dunc,

"awffy cheap"
as my old mammy used to say if something sounds too good to be true then it normally is

why don't you speak to Davy and see if he'll do it on a sat morn

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Posted By: bryce86
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 20:39
What all does the inspection I involve on the e36?

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Posted By: stephenperry
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 20:42

http://www.bimmerzone.com/inspection.htm - http://www.bimmerzone.com/inspection.htm

 



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Posted By: bryce86
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 20:56

Thanks Stephen, you dont happen to know Glen C (bigman) from Elgin - he runs a Security company...

From what I can see, there'll only be £70/80 on parts, so still leaving a decent amount for a few hours labour.  And it gets the book stamped!



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Posted By: m3tiko
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 21:10
AFAIK BMW Indp't Specialists use genuine BMW parts...Ask to see the parts beforehand and also a checklist of all work to be carried out during inspection.

One word of advice would be to make sure its a like for like inspection mate...


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Posted By: stephenperry
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 22:43
Originally posted by bryce86 bryce86 wrote:

Thanks Stephen, you dont happen to know Glen C (bigman) from Elgin - he runs a Security company...

the only security company i'm aware of is Tower Security, is that him?  or do you mean security as in bouncers?  i have one who bounces part-time as a neighbour, his day job is to do with double-glazing, doesn't have a bm though, he's got an astra vxr

bttt, sorry



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Posted By: Rossi
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 23:01
Originally posted by Tiko Tiko wrote:

One word of advice would be to make sure its a like for like inspection mate...
yup, agreed, they could cut corners which reflects the low price...

Originally posted by stevie53 stevie53 wrote:

why don't you speak to Davy and see if he'll do it on a sat morn
no harm asking, pretty sure he would accommodate to suit, and you have the peace of mind knowing it's done right IMO



Posted By: bryce86
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 23:21

Moray security is his company I think, he's had numerous M3s, and had my CSL just before me for a month.  Got a supercharged Jeep now

Sorry for taking off topic!



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Posted By: bluebro
Date Posted: 30-June-2008 at 23:48

So you bought bigman's CSL, nice one!



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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 01-July-2008 at 09:30
Originally posted by bryce86 bryce86 wrote:

That seems a great price!  Iv been quoted £160 for just an oil service on mine.

Would be interesting to see how much an Inspection II is, from other forums Iv heard people paying anything from £650 to £1200 (!!).

Out of interest Dunc, many miles has the GT done?


104k miles on the GT

Insp II just under £1k from a dealer for me (checked when I chuckled at their £600+ insp I quotes...)

Insp I on M3 includes valve clearance check and new spark plugs as well as the usual checking gubbins. Estimated at 5hours.

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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 01-July-2008 at 09:32
Originally posted by Chas C Chas C wrote:

Incidentally Dunk, do all quotes include VAT?


100% sure about the dealer and Stirling quotes including VAT. Got to assume the Ibrox one doesn't.

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Posted By: Chas C
Date Posted: 01-July-2008 at 10:07

Originally posted by Webdunk Webdunk wrote:

100% sure about the dealer and Stirling quotes including VAT. Got to assume the Ibrox one doesn't.

If that assumption is correct it would make a bit more sense.  If not then the Ibrox quote is definitely "awfy cheap"



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Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 01-July-2008 at 10:44

 

Quote

Insp I on M3 includes valve clearance check and new spark plugs as well as the usual checking gubbins. Estimated at 5hours.

That will explain why they replace the rocker cover gasket

 



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E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets

Current:
116i Sport F20


Posted By: Rossi
Date Posted: 01-July-2008 at 14:57
mind you, looking at this pic from another thread..


you may want to try http://www.lawnmower-centre.co.uk/servicing.htm - here for something cheaper 


Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 01-July-2008 at 15:16
Originally posted by Rossi Rossi wrote:

you may want to try http://www.lawnmower-centre.co.uk/servicing.htm - here for something cheaper 


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Posted By: stevie53
Date Posted: 01-July-2008 at 18:44
Dunc

from personal exp the Ibrox Indy doesn't include VAT on his quotes and he charges £45 per hour labour although he does offer you the chance to pay cash and wave the VAT but then that's without invoice.

I'm no mathematician but £45 @ 5hrs = £225 and that's before parts, so something definitely doesn't add up.



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Posted By: Big Stuff
Date Posted: 01-July-2008 at 19:25
He's not including valve clearances in that price. Worth a call to clarify?

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Posted By: bryce86
Date Posted: 01-July-2008 at 20:32
Originally posted by bluebro bluebro wrote:

So you bought bigman's CSL, nice one!

Thats the one John, Glen only had it a month.  He traded it in on the friday and I had it bought on the tuesday.



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Posted By: gary
Date Posted: 01-July-2008 at 21:57
BM Motors will do your service on a Sat if ask.

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Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 02-July-2008 at 08:30

Originally posted by Webdunk Webdunk wrote:


Parks Glasgow £602.56 (I checked they had heard Insp I not II and that we were talking about an E36 and not anything more modern...)

Not remember your incident with the clutch?

And the slight mishap with my first E60?

Granted I know why you want to take it there.

Made your mind up yet where you are going to take it?

Andrew



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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 02-July-2008 at 08:33
Originally posted by Andrew Rolland Andrew Rolland wrote:

Not remember your incident with the clutch?


I do indeed but I like to get prices anyway so I get a feel for what's on offer.

Have booked the Stirling garage as I was pleased with them on a previous job, they're local so i can work from home, they can sort my MoT too and they take plastic.

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Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 02-July-2008 at 08:54

Originally posted by Webdunk Webdunk wrote:

Originally posted by Andrew Rolland Andrew Rolland wrote:

Not remember your incident with the clutch?




Have booked the Stirling garage as I was pleased with them on a previous job, they're local so i can work from home, they can sort my MoT too and they take plastic.

 

That`s 2 of the best reasons mate

1.Happy with previous work

2.They take plastic

 

Sort out a Club discount while your there



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Previous:

E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv
E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets

Current:
116i Sport F20


Posted By: ACS330
Date Posted: 02-July-2008 at 19:22
Sounds like a plan

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Posted By: Rossi
Date Posted: 02-July-2008 at 19:47
bit of a slap in the face to a car club promoter/ sponsor tho...ah well, your choice..


Posted By: stephenperry
Date Posted: 02-July-2008 at 19:50

Originally posted by Rossi Rossi wrote:

bit of a slap in the face to a car club promoter/ sponsor tho...ah well, your choice..

could be the incentive he requires to drop his prices to compete.... ?



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Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 02-July-2008 at 19:54

Originally posted by Rossi Rossi wrote:

you may want to try http://www.lawnmower-centre.co.uk/servicing.htm - here for something cheaper 
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 02-July-2008 at 23:03
Originally posted by Rossi Rossi wrote:

bit of a slap in the face to a car club promoter/ sponsor tho...ah well, your choice..


That's got to be one of your most abrasive / downright irritating posts yet

I like Davy and respect his business and work. The club in Scotland is very grateful for all his support and we hope he gets the business to reward him for his investment in us. However his total service proposition simply does not suit me in this instance. "Slap in the face"? I think not. Please don't pass comment on a decision you know very little about.

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Posted By: Howard
Date Posted: 02-July-2008 at 23:16
I get my M6 serviced and MOT for £200 at (ex main dealer trained) RTS Motors in Huddersfield. A bit far for the lads in Scotland, but a great job at a great price. Main Dealer cost is around £650 for the same work.
I have tried lots of service agents, official and otherwise before settling on this one.


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Posted By: curnrik
Date Posted: 02-July-2008 at 23:33
Davy is brillant.  I had trailing arm bushes and a ball joint done to my E36 the other week, and i was there the whole time while he carried out the work chatting to him.  He told me he charges £35/hour and £30/hour to club members which is excellent.

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Posted By: Rossi
Date Posted: 03-July-2008 at 00:39
Originally posted by Webdunk Webdunk wrote:

Originally posted by Rossi Rossi wrote:

bit of a slap in the face to a car club promoter/ sponsor tho...ah well, your choice..


That's got to be one of your most abrasive / downright irritating posts yet


thank you for your kind words, but Davy is a fair distance from me too and it entails me taking a day off work to visit him to fix and maintain my car also..As you have only just said, the circumstances don't suite you during the week or a saturday, which is fair enough.

Originally posted by Webdunk Webdunk wrote:

Davy means a day off work for me...

The suggestions of a saturday visit weren't replied to so, I am only going by the aforementioned posts in the thread, which made me see red  prior to your kind words.
I've already taken 3 days off this year to get work done on the car at Davy's and I am an entirely satisfied customer who thinks he should get nothing but praise for his work.(top bloke too)

A failure to reply to suggestions doesn't help matters either as it has only clouded the issue in my view.

Originally posted by webdunk webdunk wrote:

Please don't pass comment on a decision you know very little about

so everyone knew you couldn't make it on a saturday without actually posting a reply to the question of a saturday visit in the thread






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