E36 Angel Eyes
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Topic: E36 Angel Eyes
Posted By: TOPCAT
Subject: E36 Angel Eyes
Date Posted: 29-November-2003 at 15:50
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I've learn that the latest HELLA Chromed Angel eyes are plug and play, but there's another set available which are not HELLA and they are called Chromed HALO lights.
They say it comes like the HELLA as a complete unit, not like the other cheaper HALO rings on the market that you put into the exsisting BM headlight unit. Now I've noticed that the HELLA rings are smaller than the HALO rings. But are the HALO units more difficult to fit than the HELLA ones? Even though they are complete units. Do you have to re-wire to fit?  ------------- 
98' M3 EVO Coupé - 321 Bhp |
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Posted By: TOPCAT
Date Posted: 29-November-2003 at 16:26
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I have noticed across the web that this subject has come up B4. But no-one has said which one is easlier to fit.
I have seen that the In-Pro ones which do look better as bigger Halos but they are a yellowish colour. Can't say I like that, I would prefer the white blue colour.  -------------
98' M3 EVO Coupé - 321 Bhp |
Posted By: Ant318is
Date Posted: 29-November-2003 at 23:41
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Go for the Hellas mate,fitted a set to my car today and they look the bizzo,you wont be disappointed,give off a nice crisp blue/white light. HTR are doing them for £299 + free delivery. As you say they are plug & play,a 1 hour job max. ------------- Ants318is |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 03-December-2003 at 15:14
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Hella have just released a new non-chrome version which IMHO is more subtle.
Hella and In.Pro units are a doddle to fit. I've not heard of these Chromed Halo units
Anything that involves taking your lights to bits is going to be more complicated although it is still reported to be well within the skills of most DIYers. To give you some idea, I had never played about with my headlight units before and I managed to fit In.Pro units in about an hour (Hellas will be the same). When doin it again, it took even less time. The only possibly annoying issue will be aligning your headlights after fitting new units. Although if your lights are correctly aligned before you change to a new set then simply line up on a flat surface and make some markings on a wall or garage door or similar vertical surface to give you a target against which to align the new units. ------------- 
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Posted By: TOPCAT
Date Posted: 04-December-2003 at 09:51
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Where have you found out about the non-chromed Hellas is there an image I can look at?
I take it if you buy just the Halos to fit into the exsisting BM unit you probably don't have to worry about the alignment factor. The halos kit is around £73 quid. It would be nice to see for real a set of Hellas against the other Halos then you get a really good idea what is your preference. -------------
98' M3 EVO Coupé - 321 Bhp |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 04-December-2003 at 10:14
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http://www.hella-press.de/search_detail.php?text_id=306&language=e&newdir=eng - Hella Press Release
I've also heard tell of a set of Hellas which also include proper Xenon lights. Not too cheap - price been reported about the £1k mark. Not seen anything official though. If you dismantle your headlights and then fit rings, you'll still need to realign them. However, the plus point would be that the lights units will still fit into standard beam-setting kit used by all stealers who charge £20ish to align. Which one to go for seems entirely down to personal preference : - Folk are either into taking their headlights to bits or not. - Each kit offers something different, whether it's value for money, altering colours, CRT, fibre optic, LED, pseudo-fibre optic, etc - In.Pro units are generally reviewed as being too dull. If you're into it, you can again dismantle these and 'upgrade' them with LED. http://www.umnitza.com/ - Umnitza even market an upgrade kit. - http://www.umnitza.com/ - Umnitza will also sell you genuine headlights with ring kits pre-installed. Their 'Lightning; kit looks fearsomely bright. - Hella chrome units are a personal taste thing. - Hella units are generally reviewed as having quite bright rings. They are also generally reviewed as having the smallest rings. - Don't forget the cannabaliser's fave - dismantle genuine E39 Units and jury rig them into E36 units. - Finally, you could just get a bodyshop to graft E39 Units onto your car! The Yellow E36 recently shown at Donnington and I believe in Revs shows this mod. Do your homework and make your choice  -------------
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Posted By: TOPCAT
Date Posted: 05-December-2003 at 15:58
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Thanks for the help you have been very helpful.
I will let u know how I get on.  -------------
98' M3 EVO Coupé - 321 Bhp |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 05-December-2003 at 16:01
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Happy hunting -------------
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Posted By: STEVE328
Date Posted: 06-December-2003 at 15:12
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I agree, the Hella chrome units are too gawdy formy tastes (re: Lexus looky-likey).The black ones are better,but the rings are way too small.
The Unitza ones look the bunnies. I'm going to write my letter to Santa now! ------------- 
1996 N Montreal blue 328i saloon 45k / 01 Y Yamaha YZF600R Thundercat. |
Posted By: M3JCG
Date Posted: 08-December-2003 at 16:49
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I have just purchased the chrome hella headlights and first impressions is they are absolutely fantastic. I disagree that the rings are quite small they seem just about the right size (you can have them too big) also they look like whole rings, where as some other models do not look complete. - Also the color of light from the main beams is a much cleaner blue light than mucky yellow, a BIG plus. The shade of the car makes a difference in whether they look gawdy or not, on a dark car it might look silly but on a silver/light blue car the effect is striking to say the least. (Mine is silver) Overall am very impressed with the hellas - shame i don't have any pictures (yet). Regards, James. |
Posted By: Ant318is
Date Posted: 08-December-2003 at 17:08
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Spot on James,couldnt agree more,well impressed with mine. ------------- Ants318is |
Posted By: STEVE328
Date Posted: 08-December-2003 at 18:33
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It's all a matter of personal taste at the end of the day. I'd argree they probably do look good on a silver car.I'm happy your'e pleased with your purchases! -------------
1996 N Montreal blue 328i saloon 45k / 01 Y Yamaha YZF600R Thundercat. |
Posted By: m330gt
Date Posted: 16-December-2003 at 12:35
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To add another one into the pot, I bought a set of ready assembled units off Ebay, advertised as Osram (although I can't actually find any reference to Osram on the units themselves). They come with the rings ready fitted that are a bit bigger than the Hella ones (and I personally think look better since the ring is incomplete as on the E39). They were pretty easy to fit although the access is a bit tight behind them on my car. My only problem has been that the electric height adjusters won't fit from my old headlights, so I've had to leave them manual and get them set at an MOT station. The rings are a nice cool blue when lit but my only other slight criticism is that they're not bright enough to see in daylight. I'd also echo the other guys comments re taste. Mine are chrome, I'm still not sure I love the look on my BRG car. Cheers Paul ------------- Paul Newton ------------ 
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Posted By: raptor_demon
Date Posted: 14-January-2004 at 11:52
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Hello all, Im new hear so if i have missed something im sorry, Has anyone got any pics of the black version on of these lights on a dark coloured car, mine is black. how much did you pay for your hella lights? the best i can find is 266 pounds on ebay?
thanks Raptor ------------- 1994 e36 325i in metalic black |
Posted By: Ant318is
Date Posted: 14-January-2004 at 13:47
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Firstly,my car is Boston Green so fairly dark in colour. I have the chrome Hellas fitted and they look superb. Dont think that because you have a dark car,you have to have the black lights. As far as price is concerned, £299 is the best price I found by miles. Be wary what you are bidding for off Ebay, are they genuine etc..... do you have a link to the ebay page? ------------- Ants318is |
Posted By: raptor_demon
Date Posted: 15-January-2004 at 09:42
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Hi, Do you have a pic of your car with the hella's mounted? i have found very few pics of these that were not taken by hella, My car is black so i reckon that the black lights would look better on the car but i dunno, i live in switzerland so these kinda things i cant just walk in and have a look at, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2453838627&category=57310 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2453838627&category=57310 the ebay page is in german but basically it says the probuct is original hella with bulbs, the german hella dealer said they sell these for 520 euros in germany.
thanks Raptor ------------- 1994 e36 325i in metalic black |
Posted By: dave 328
Date Posted: 15-January-2004 at 10:36
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Which kit is this for £73? Is one which will fit straight into my lights, and are they LED? I got a universal kit (LED rings) which were £20, but it has four rings, but one pair are smaller, so I'll have to buy another set so I have to big pairs!! They are from CT Racing. I done a trial run in my original headlights and they look good!! They'll need a bit of modding as the ring has a plate on it which will need triming. So I'll have angle eyes for £40!!! |
TOPCAT wrote:Posted By: raptor_demon
Date Posted: 15-January-2004 at 12:54
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dave 328 do you know if your kits are road legal? I think i am going to go for the blakc hella's i just saw a pic of a black bmw same colour as mine with the silver lights and i found the silver made it look a bit odd... see... i have condensation in my headlights and i really wanna get the h7 bulb so i get better light output.
Does anyone know if the black ones have less light output? And has anyone got any pics of them on the car? all i can find is just hte lamp stitting on the hella box. Just spoke to the swiss dealer he can get them for me at 265pounds (600chf swiss) in black or sivler but they are not available till march... the xenon kit intested me but 500 pounds is alot for what you get...
Raptor ------------- 1994 e36 325i in metalic black |
Posted By: dave 328
Date Posted: 15-January-2004 at 15:48
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Raptor, The kit does say for off-road use only, but this can mean the company who make them haven't paid for the approval stamp - just easier to sell them and put this on the packing to cover themselves. But if you look at some of the 'special' headlights bulbs with blue tinges etc, these also say for off-road use. they look the same as the 5-series when turned on, so if they passed, I'm sure these will be OK - just haven't had the approval stamp! The original side light bulb (which the eyes replace) will be be easily re-connected, just in-case!! |
Posted By: raptor_demon
Date Posted: 16-January-2004 at 10:08
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Thanks dave, In switzerland where i am if you use anytihng that is not EC or TUV approved and you have an accednet, then you will probalby be held resposable so i cant take any risks with that, dont get em wrong 40quid sounds grat and im sure they look fantastic but i dont wanna risk having my insurance voided should i have a crash just coz the Swiss government is over strict. I think i will go for the Black hellas, however i have not found any pictures of them has anyone seen any? I just saw the the bmws with OEM rings is: 5series, 6 series,7 sereis and X5.(i was in the showroom this morning waiting for the stealer to look at my rev counter problem it took them 30 mins to see me...) thakns Raptor ------------- 1994 e36 325i in metalic black |
Posted By: coupe king
Date Posted: 20-January-2004 at 10:11
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[QUOTE=raptor_demon]
Hi, Do you have a pic of your car with the hella's mounted? i have found very few pics of these that were not taken by hella, My car is black so i reckon that the black lights would look better on the car but i dunno, Here you go, hellas on met black car! http://www.green-cameron.co.uk/bmw/coupeking/coupe_king14.jpg - http://www.green-cameron.co.uk/bmw/coupeking/coupe_king14.jpg http://www.green-cameron.co.uk/bmw/coupeking/coupe_king8.jpg - http://www.green-cameron.co.uk/bmw/coupeking/coupe_king8.jpg http://www.325ster.com/temp/coupeking6.jpg - http://www.325ster.com/temp/coupeking6.jpg
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Posted By: raptor_demon
Date Posted: 20-January-2004 at 13:21
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coupe king,
My god they look good!!! my mind is made up... im going for hte silver ones
thanks coupe king, you should be proud of that car!!!
now all i gotta do is come up with the money... so mush work work work
thanks agian!!!
Raptor ------------- 1994 e36 325i in metalic black |
Posted By: coupe king
Date Posted: 20-January-2004 at 19:01
Cool, cheers raptor dude!!! Thanks for the compliments!!! ------------- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/coupe_king/IMG_1101-1.jpg - My Car - Click Here
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Posted By: coupe king
Date Posted: 20-January-2004 at 19:06
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Let me know when you want a set i can put you in touch with Joe of HyperTurismo, he can do the for £300 including postage maybe a bit more if you are outside the UK! They will be the best mod you will make, i would bet on that! Good luck! Neil ------------- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/coupe_king/IMG_1101-1.jpg - My Car - Click Here
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Posted By: raptor_demon
Date Posted: 20-January-2004 at 19:10
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Thanks Coupe i can get them for 265pounds here from a swiss dealer straight from hella germany These are the only mods im gonna do to the car, except maybe smoked rear lights, i wanna keep the car looking more or less stock
neway gotta go thanks again
Raptor ------------- 1994 e36 325i in metalic black |
Posted By: coupe king
Date Posted: 20-January-2004 at 19:21
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Let me warn you, if you get the Hellas, then you will want to update the rest of the lights check these!!!!! I have the Crystal fogs, projector indicators (i think the crystal ones are actually nicer!) the rear crystal type lights too. Check the previous pics for the crystal fogs and indics http://www.325ster.com/temp/coupeking5.jpg - http://www.325ster.com/temp/coupeking5.jpg It isnt the best pic, because its been reduced so much, if you want the full size ones mail me at neil_t_uk@yahoo.co.uk
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Posted By: raptor_demon
Date Posted: 21-January-2004 at 21:09
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im gonna keep the fogs the same althought i have one hella and one zkw at the mo :-( the front indicators im gonna keep stock and the rear i might get smoked lights
thanks fro the warning tho btw ne engine mods there? canu email pics to mailto:davidingram@bluewin.ch - davidingram@bluewin.ch
thanks Dave ------------- 1994 e36 325i in metalic black |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 22-January-2004 at 09:03
Good choice 
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Posted By: coupe king
Date Posted: 22-January-2004 at 09:25
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Yours are just part smoked dunc, i think he means fully smoked, like my old ones......want to buy them....? I like yours dunc, especially as your front and side indics are smoked too! ------------- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/coupe_king/IMG_1101-1.jpg - My Car - Click Here
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 22-January-2004 at 09:49
Hmmm but fully smoked can be bad... <yoda>choose wisely he must</yoda>
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Posted By: raptor_demon
Date Posted: 22-January-2004 at 12:19
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Coupe how much do u want for ur smoked ones, do they fit a 4 door? Im looking for ones like coupe has really
dave ------------- 1994 e36 325i in metalic black |
Posted By: coupe king
Date Posted: 22-January-2004 at 13:20
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Dunc thats my mates 520, he now has clears all round it was featured in PBMW a couple of months back! He is currently driving round his dad's E46 M3, he took me out for a spin in it, very nice!!!! Raptor, unfortunately the are just for the coupe, the saloon ones are a different shape......
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Never mind! I would tend to get newer crystal style ones as smoked can tend to look a bit 1990's Renault 19 ish, if you know what i mean, they do look nice but if you get chrome angels, it just looks a bit out of place....., fine if your other lights are smoked too!Posted By: raptor_demon
Date Posted: 22-January-2004 at 13:57
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Tis a shame that the coupe ones are a diff shape...,
i was thinking smoked like this http://www.geocities.com/raptor_demon69/icar1.jpg - http://www.geocities.com/raptor_demon69/icar1.jpg
this was my old car the engine blew so i got rid of it,
Raptor ------------- 1994 e36 325i in metalic black |
Posted By: coupe king
Date Posted: 22-January-2004 at 14:32
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Pic aint workin dude.......
You have e-mail!!!! ------------- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/coupe_king/IMG_1101-1.jpg - My Car - Click Here
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Posted By: raptor_demon
Date Posted: 22-January-2004 at 15:26
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wtf this happens every time i tested the link a few times first so i wouldnt look stupid.... oh well, maybe my usage limit exceeded the link below should work
http://www.geocities.com/raptor_demon69/car.htm - http://www.geocities.com/raptor_demon69/car.htm i tested it laods
Dave ------------- 1994 e36 325i in metalic black |