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Forum Name: BMW 5 Series
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Topic: Clutch
Posted By: 540 V8
Subject: Clutch
Date Posted: 16-September-2010 at 20:30
On and off for some time now I have noticed a judder from the clutch. It only tends to happen when letting the clutch out slowly i.e. in slow traffic or from standstill at a junction. The amount of judder has increased over the last couple of weeks although it still only happens once every 2-3 journeys (10-15 miles) I'm thinking the clutch may be on it's way out so here's the thing;

I'd love to able to afford a genuine BMW one as being in the trade, I know of many customers who have gloated at getting a half price clutch then come back with tail between the legs 6 months later! However I'm sure there must be an OE make that is half the price but still the quality? Has anyone bought a non-genuine clutch they've been happy with and if so, what make and where from?

Many thanks

Mike


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Current:E34 540i Touring 6 speed manual(Mpower bodykit & suspension)& Chrysler Voyager 3.3 V6 auto
Previous:E34 530iSE AC Schnitzer suspension.
E28 525e auto-Standard



Replies:
Posted By: Hasso
Date Posted: 17-September-2010 at 07:44
I think Sachs clutch is factory fitted but its seems to have the same price here in Sweden in a private sparepartshop as BMW has.
http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E34/Touring/Europe/540i-M6 0/RHD/M/1996/january/browse/clutch/

Note if you notice the the clutch slips, change it directly otherwise you burn the flywheel very easy and you have more then double coust fore clutchchange.

Some times at some bigger BMW club Schweden meetings, BMW have 20% fore spareparts, next time I should buy me a clutch.
It have passed 200.000 km last summer)
Last time i buy rubbermounting to the engine.
 (Just change 4 17" tyres on the 540T so the "hobbywallet" is a little empty at the moment )


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BR Hasso
BMW 540T 2001 6 speed.
BMW 316G (biogas) -1998
http://www.autopower.se/galleriet/bilder.asp?bil=40895
http://www.autopower.se/galleriet/bmw.asp?bil=45700
http://www.autopower.se/galleriet/bmw.asp?bil=40865
http://www.autopower.se/galleriet/bmw.asp?bil=45749



Posted By: bmwcare
Date Posted: 19-September-2010 at 16:11
The BMW part number for the 3piece kit is:
21 21 1 223 633 - this is listed as 265mm

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Equiv Kits are:

Sachs 3000 832 601 - 265mm

Valeo 826737 - 266mm

LuK 627 2250 00 - 270mm

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As the Sachs kit matches the size of BMW kit, it's most likely that Sachs is the OEM supplier. However, Valeo & LuK are quality stuff too.
I'd buy whichever of the four was the cheapest...

I've had cases recently where customers went and bought an aftermarket clutch and it was actually more expensive than BMW so price BMW first.

Kind Regards,
Eddie.



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Posted By: 540 V8
Date Posted: 19-September-2010 at 20:51
Well thankfully I have no slip at all yet and I can accelerate fairly hard from standstill without getting any slip or judder. I just feel as though it may be ever so slightly warped perhaps, potentially rear main leaking too as suggested on my last MOT but not 100% sure though I'll do it at the same time, may as well if gearbox is out.

Thanks for the info Eddie, if you are happy the after market cutches are ok then that's good enough for me! Don't worry, I ALWAYS price main dealer first. Working in one, I know how people can be disillusioned by dealer prices and it's a common misconception that they are laways the more expensive.

Cheers
Mike


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Current:E34 540i Touring 6 speed manual(Mpower bodykit & suspension)& Chrysler Voyager 3.3 V6 auto
Previous:E34 530iSE AC Schnitzer suspension.
E28 525e auto-Standard


Posted By: Hasso
Date Posted: 21-September-2010 at 17:01
I am happy that I have only the 240 mm clutch and it coust 50% of the 265mm :)

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BR Hasso
BMW 540T 2001 6 speed.
BMW 316G (biogas) -1998
http://www.autopower.se/galleriet/bilder.asp?bil=40895
http://www.autopower.se/galleriet/bmw.asp?bil=45700
http://www.autopower.se/galleriet/bmw.asp?bil=40865
http://www.autopower.se/galleriet/bmw.asp?bil=45749



Posted By: jetsetwilly2000
Date Posted: 27-September-2010 at 09:37
I suggest ringing Motormec and asking them - they are my preferred oem supplier and have never got it wrong.

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E34 535iS



Posted By: Crispy-d
Date Posted: 31-October-2010 at 18:39
Hi Mike,

Just went searching for clutch/flywheel and this thread popped up and it
looks pretty recent too!

I've been pondering the old clutch change too and I have it on good
authority that the LUK clutch is a worthy replacement and is indeed a
quality part. I can get it from Eurocarparts for about £200 through my
friendly mechanic so was going to do that, however, I now have another
dilemma...!

The flywheel! I was searching flywheel to see if anyone had discussed the
same topic, only regarding flywheels as well as clutches. I just had a slight
'incident' and I reckon it's time to replace my flywheel but whilst I have not
put anything on the car since nearly 3 years ago that isn't genuine BMW
I'm not sure I can foot the £1400 bill for the BMW parts (that was with
discount, apparently). Because they are dual-mass, I gather they are
worth getting right, as a cheap one is just going to cause problems or just
break. No £300 ones from Ebay then.... But if anyone has any experience
with the flywheels on these cars then I'd very much like to learn more
about it!

In answer to your question though, Mike, the cheapest clutch I could find
that was the best price is the LUK clutch from Eurocarparts. I searched for
several months before coming up with that decision and I have been told
many times that it's the best choice if you don't go OEM. (Plus, as already
said, Sachs is the OEM one).

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BMW E39 M5 - 2002
Land Rover 110 4.0 V8 - 1986
BMW E39 530d Manual SE - 2001
BMW E34 540i 6 Speed Manual - 1995
Volvo S90 3.0 CD - 1997
Volvo 460 Si Turbo - 1995
Volvo 340 GL - 1989



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