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Topic: Breaking...
Posted By: Webdunk
Subject: Breaking...
Date Posted: 20-April-2011 at 13:41
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...anyone broken a car before. What was your experience? More hassle than expected or relatively straightforward to dismantle then sell? ------------- 
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Posted By: fluffnik
Date Posted: 20-April-2011 at 18:26
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What you breaking?
I've not done it myself but have observed that:
------------- ALPINA B10 V8 Touring #36 |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 20-April-2011 at 18:36
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Well since the 4000+ views of my ad have generated exactly 0 enquiries then breaking the GT is beginning to look like an option - initial sums suggest well north of £6k is doable - which is about triple the trade-in price anyone is likely to offer... -------------
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Posted By: vpricey
Date Posted: 20-April-2011 at 18:41
Oh dear, GT is way too good to break Duncan.  It may figure out to be over 6K in parts but actually getting all of those parts sold is the tricky bit. Ok all of your rare parts and nice morcels will sell no prob, but you'll be left with all the left overs. Do you really want to ad another scrapped shell to the GT Register?? It'd be a sad day if you broke GT. ------------- Paul - '87 E30 325i Sport - '99 E39 M5 - '05 E53 X5 
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 20-April-2011 at 18:46
Certainly not top of my list of fun things to do Paul but GT is only worth what someone will pay. If no-one's even picked up the phone to even haggle then I'm left with crappy options  -------------
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Posted By: fluffnik
Date Posted: 20-April-2011 at 19:21
Nooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Have you advertised on PH? I'll pimp your ad shamelessly when you do. ------------- ALPINA B10 V8 Touring #36 |
Webdunk wrote:Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 20-April-2011 at 19:37
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Been on the market for getting on for 8 weeks fluffy. All of em on PH. PH is in fact the 2nd largest referrer to the Register this month which I suspect relates to one of your posts. Loads of interest - no sponduliks it would appear.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2533479.htm - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2533479.htm -------------
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Posted By: fluffnik
Date Posted: 20-April-2011 at 19:45
Surely better to keep running it or cutting the price than breaking it...
I'll get pimpin'  ------------- ALPINA B10 V8 Touring #36 |
Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 20-April-2011 at 22:27
Christ if you are only going to get 6k breaking,then Who wants to go half with me on the car ------------- Previous: E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets Current: 116i Sport F20 |
Posted By: stevie53
Date Posted: 21-April-2011 at 06:32
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Dunc,
I have to agree with the guys, it's not a wise move to break. It seems a great idea on paper but in reality you will be left with half a car that could take you a lifetime to sell the parts from. My mate used to do this as a business and unless you've got proper facilities to strip the car and store the parts then rule this out. It really is far too nice a car to break and I'm sure someone will be along soon with 6+K that you're looking for 
------------- ///2000 E39 M5 Imola Red/// NO MORE una volta lei ha avuto l'italiano lei non andrà mai tedesco di nuovo haha |
Posted By: coupe king
Date Posted: 21-April-2011 at 06:40
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I will. I cannot believe you would contemplate breaking it. However if you do, i want first dibs on the front bumper / splitter and possibly a hell of a lot of other bits including the engine and running gear!
------------- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/coupe_king/IMG_1101-1.jpg - My Car - Click Here 
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Posted By: sailorbaz
Date Posted: 21-April-2011 at 09:22
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Dude man, no don't do it. Apart from the technicalities
of having to get rid of the fluids and stuff, there's the storage issues someone living in a flat might have. I know you could use your Dad's, or Rory's place but I've just trying to put you off really. I've posted in a couple of places I use over in NI for you. I know you'd posted on bmw-driver.net, I use a couple of others in the North too. http://www.reallymeansounds.com/forum/general-sale- wanted-swap/147464-fs-friends-m3-gt.html#post2040643 - RMS Post http://www.ni-bmw.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=7164 - NI BMW Forum There is another Forum I 'browse but don't post' but it's full of scummers that attract folk from Falkirk! 
I just know even before I hit 'Post Reply' that Google Chrome is going to shaft my links above... -------------  http://www.bmwccscotland.co.uk/cars/e46/m3csl.html" rel="nofollow - My Car 2004 M3 CSL and 2009 E90 M3 |
Posted By: Big Stuff
Date Posted: 21-April-2011 at 09:24
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Duncan, There all some way away (so not an easy solution) but i think it would be worth a chat with the respected specialists like Old Colonel Cars, WLN and Munich Legends to see if any of them would facilitate a commision sale. Alternatively take it to Gaydon with a for sale sign on?
------------- 2002 330ci SE - Factory Straight - Now gone cause am skint and in a wee diesel - Aw naw - boo hoo |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 21-April-2011 at 09:50
Like your thinking Pete... £6k is the pessimistic estimate and leaves a LOT of (standard E36) parts unaccounted for. -------------
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 21-April-2011 at 09:51
LOL you would have been first on the list anyway mate. -------------
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 21-April-2011 at 09:52
I had been wondering about that in the context of 4StarClassics... -------------
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Posted By: gary
Date Posted: 21-April-2011 at 10:22
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Also Classic Heroes. This is now own and run by Barney Hasle who was the previous owner of ML.
As said above mate, the car is too good to frag, although I fell your pain with regards to no callers. The logistics would be more hassle than I could be bothered with. I would persist with the sale until, as big Stuff suggests, Gaydon and see whay happens then, if your financial situation allows. Probably telling my granny how to suck eggs here, but have you advertised it on bmwland, gumtree, ebay, bmwcarshowroom.com, e36coupe etc. If only I had the dough mate. I'll try and talk my brother into it  ------------- http://www.bmwccscotland.co.uk/cars/e30/sportevo.html" rel="nofollow - E30 M3 Sport Evo III |
Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 21-April-2011 at 12:20
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It would be a shame to break it. Out of the other 31 cars on the road, what have they sold for? Is 8k a fair price for it? ------------- Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series! Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 21-April-2011 at 12:34
Gaun yersel'  -------------
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 21-April-2011 at 12:39
In my opinion, it's undervalued at £8k - sadly that's just my opinion. Less well kept cars have gone for £6500-£7500 so £8000 doesn't feel in any way outrageous. As I said, my pessimistic sums suggest £6k+ broken so how much more is a car worth whole than in bits? 2 other GT owners have been in touch letting me know they have agreed insurance valuations north of £11k. Gary has suggested that the UK is obsessed with age/mileage rather than condition; I reckon that's a factor. -------------
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Posted By: gary
Date Posted: 21-April-2011 at 16:56
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I Agee your car is under valued. Im not blowing sunshine up your asre
but yours is in better condition than my brothers and probably the best in the country at the moment. My brother sold his for £9000. His was a LHD mind so had a larger Market. There is a bias in this country to mileage over condition. When I was trying to sell mine any British callers were a bit worried with regards to the mileage. However the couple of European callers were more interested in the condition and restoration. I think the uncertainty in the jobs Market is a factor at the moment. It will we'll mate but as seen it will take time. Just wait it out ------------- http://www.bmwccscotland.co.uk/cars/e30/sportevo.html" rel="nofollow - E30 M3 Sport Evo III |
Posted By: ianking
Date Posted: 22-April-2011 at 12:57
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Paul and I have just finished breaking up an E46 318 and we made a good return on it but it was a bit of a hassle having neds round my house collecting stuff and dealing with lots of idiots from down south trying to bid for parts. Also a hassle parceling things up and posting them away but for us it was the only way to recoup the monies from the car. Now we have to get rid of a shell. It would be a real shame to break up your car. ------------- 2011 Mini Cooper S with Sport Pack and ma Faithers 2010 Z4 |
Posted By: johne46
Date Posted: 22-April-2011 at 18:53
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Dunk just give it more time my e46 had 130,000 on the clock
and i was asking for £3,500 i got £3000 in the end but it was 4months all in. i tell you it will go its a lovely car just stay with it and i will be sorry to see it go...all the best with the sale .... -------------  M3 Evo 4 door |
Posted By: Chas C
Date Posted: 22-April-2011 at 19:26
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I suspect if I put the B8 on the market just now it would be lucky to reach £8k here. Sad but true. It has only 70k miles on the clock and was the Frankfurt show car. Perhaps across the Channel the B8 could fetch over €15k but with a RHD GT you don't really have that option. No offence Dunk but you know the Alpina is the ultimate E36 so where does that leave everything else? I reckon the market hasn't even bottomed out yet but that's a reflection of the economy rather than the cars. If it's a 'must sell' situation then that's a pity. My inclination would be to store it till things improve. Breaking it would be criminal. ------------- 
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Posted By: Robert328
Date Posted: 25-April-2011 at 22:34
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Seen you on the M8 the other day in this and it looked cracking. I will join the "if I had the cash crew" - which is absolutely no help to you at all - sorry. If you think you could easily get 6k for it breaking it then it would be worth selling it for 6k just to save the hassle. I'd stick it on eBay for at 6k starting price and no reserve if you really need to sell it. Otherwise I'd just hold out. You'd need to make a good bit more than the least you'd let it go for to make it worth breaking it as it would be a major headache and you can't exactly change your mind half way through! I wouldn't say it's the best in the Country as I know of another in Scotland that changed hands for nearer 20k so possibly the second best  |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 26-April-2011 at 09:08
Cheers Got a couple of good cleans in recently.
Yup, it's really a question of what the hassle will 'cost'. Looking at pretty pessimistic sums, I reckon £6k is the minimum so more is doable; the question is how much the hassle, Paypal & eBay fees and P&P eats into that. Not to mention the madness of breaking a car of this standard.
To the best of my knowledge and the wider BMW / GT community mine was the only one in Scotland (with the possible exception of a sighting some time ago in Aberdeenshire which never recurred). The only time I've heard £20k mentioned in the context of GTs was in the refurb bill spent on a mag featured car a good few years ago. Any further info you're able to give me for the Register would be very interesting. -------------
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Posted By: m3Cecotto
Date Posted: 26-April-2011 at 10:31
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Selling unusual cars in Scotland is a real PITA. There are very few local buyers and even fewer people prepared to travel 400 miles (passing a couple of others for sale on the way) to view. I don't know where you have it advertised, but I often find that the old fashioned printed classic car magazines work best - a paid for ad in Classic & Sportscar or Classic Car is often the best. May be a little new for them, but worth a try. I'll break anything if it's more financially viable - but that really would be a crying shame.
------------- 1981 E23 735i 1989 E30 325i Motorsport Cabrio 1989 E24 635CSi Motorsport Edition http://www.bavarianretro.com" rel="nofollow - Bavarian Retro Cars |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 26-April-2011 at 10:46
Ironic given I travelled to Watford to buy this one passing another in Leamington on the way. A valid point nonetheless I fear although it is the only one on the UK market at the mo.
Pistonheads - quiet interest until pimped by Fluffy then a flurry of views Various forums - whole range of interest Autotrader - totally hopeless, just generated spam Car & Classic - quiet interest (I agree it may yet be a little new for this audience) GT Register - thousands of advert views My feeling is that the message that it's for sale is out there but that either the economic climate or mileage issues already referred to are at the heart of the problem although it would be interesting to understand the location one you've just raised... -------------
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Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 26-April-2011 at 12:34
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Now this is a bit of a curved ball and I'm prepared to get slagged for this but what about "we buy any car dot com"? . ------------- Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series! Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 26-April-2011 at 13:02
Laughable I'm afraid - £1900. I could sell bits off the car and be left with a perfectly functional M3 for that... CAP has it at £2445 as it's valued as a 3.0l M3 -------------
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Posted By: gary
Date Posted: 26-April-2011 at 19:40
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What about ebay as mentioned above?
Worth a try. I have to agree with m3cecotto. Up here we are willing to travel. I bought my M3 and my first 5 series in England and went to Kelso to buy wee Garry's 3 series, but those south of the border just don't seem willing to travel north, even though you offer to pick them up from either the train station or airport. I know there are loads more cars for sale in England, but as Dunc says these are rare cars. When I was trying to sell the M3 one guy told me I was too far away as he was in London. when I told him he could get a Flight to Glasgow from sleazyjet and I woild pick him up he asked if I could meet him on the M6 near Birmingham(WTF) ------------- http://www.bmwccscotland.co.uk/cars/e30/sportevo.html" rel="nofollow - E30 M3 Sport Evo III |
Posted By: m3Cecotto
Date Posted: 26-April-2011 at 20:33
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I'd consider placing it on commission sale basis with Old Colonel or Four Star Classics (they are very, very expensive though - transport fees, detailing fees, advert fees then 20% IIRC - but they DO sell some stuff at spectacular prices). Or I have a good contact at Anglia Car Auctions and can get you a good deal in their classic car auction if it's of interest? A magazine article often helps with an unusual car too - can you get it in Total BMW or something? Or alternatively I have long term storage available at very reasonable rates. Sod 'em. ------------- 1981 E23 735i 1989 E30 325i Motorsport Cabrio 1989 E24 635CSi Motorsport Edition http://www.bavarianretro.com" rel="nofollow - Bavarian Retro Cars |
Posted By: Robert328
Date Posted: 26-April-2011 at 23:25
I hate to sound like someone who says "I know a secret but I'm not telling you" - however it's not really my place to give more details as I'm sure if the owner wanted the car known he would be on the register / forum. It has been in Scotland for the at least a couple of years and still is unless the onwner has sold it on with the past few months. As you probably know there are loads of cars out there in Scotland and everywhere in the world really that don't see the light of day much and have owners are very private about them / don't like the fact they have them being common knowlegdge. A few of which belong to my customers and I get to detail them |
Posted By: Robert328
Date Posted: 26-April-2011 at 23:43
Nothing to loose really. Since eBay started I have sold every car (roughly 10) either on there or on pistonheads. Most have been on both sites. I've only let one auction run to the end on one as I was very unsure of the value of the car and got a good bit more than I expect so it ended up being worth the gamble. Every other car I sold on eBay has been sold before the auction ended. I just sold my van on there and started at £1 no reserve. I then put in the text I have this advertised else where and am looking for £6k or nearest offer - which eBays system blocked as it must have picked up on the fact I was tryng to say I'm open to offers to end early so I just put or near 0ffer (the number zero  ). Got an offer for £5k within an hour and sold for £5.5k within a couple of days (paid 5.7k for it 16 months prior via an eBay advert (but bought "off eBay). I was hoping to get at least £5k for it so was happy.People slag eBay and say it rubbish / full of junk I personally think it's the best site on the net. Just a point to note, you can't end the auction in the last 24 hours so I just put on a 10 day auction (the longest) and if I didn't get an offer / sell it within the first 9 days I'd have taken it off and started again (never had to do this though). I wouldn't put it as an advert with offers because someone could send you an offer which you accept then pull out. Then all of other people that were watching it would be able to see the offer you accepted. An auction is the best - either stating at £1 with or without a reserve or just start it at the very minimum price you'd take no reserve. Even if you start at £1 with say a £8k reserve I'd never let it run to the end as if it only gets bid up to 4 or 5k and ends without meeting the reserve it basically says that's what the cars worth which is obviously not always the case. Sorry for blabbing on but as mentioned I've sold and bought loads of cars on eBay and have always got at least the money I wanted for them. I am roughly breaking even sale price vs purchase price on them too. |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 27-April-2011 at 09:20
I did wonder if that would be the case. If you're talking to the owner, please do mention the Register and we can leave it up to them. -------------
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 27-April-2011 at 09:21
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Thanks for the info Boyd. I may be in touch. -------------
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Posted By: muppet 2
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 20:13
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Now sold i believe ------------- I have been diagnosed with ADHOtS. Attention Deficit Hyperactive Ohh that's Shiney 
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Posted By: davy tombstone
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 20:30
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its up for sale here.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2777246.htm ------------- http://s324.photobucket.com/user/davytombstone/media/newsig_zpsd6056b1d.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: sailorbaz
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 20:46
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At THIS price??? I'm a bit lost, Duncan? ------------- http://www.bmwccscotland.co.uk/cars/e46/m3csl.html" rel="nofollow - My Car 2004 M3 CSL and 2009 E90 M3 |
Posted By: davy tombstone
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 20:51
no Baz, some scammer is using Dunc,s pics.  ------------- http://s324.photobucket.com/user/davytombstone/media/newsig_zpsd6056b1d.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: sailorbaz
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 21:02
Ah, that's my innocent mind you see. Whops ------------- http://www.bmwccscotland.co.uk/cars/e46/m3csl.html" rel="nofollow - My Car 2004 M3 CSL and 2009 E90 M3 |
Posted By: Issy
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 21:04
Thats terrible some folk eh bet theirs is a shed!!! I have heard he has taken a deposit for it so looks like it going!!! -------------  |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 21:10
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Aye. Deposit taken from a very nice chap from Edi. -------------
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Posted By: davy tombstone
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 21:12
good to hear bud. ------------- http://s324.photobucket.com/user/davytombstone/media/newsig_zpsd6056b1d.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Cambell
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 21:12
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I for one am happy to see it go.............Its obviously what Dunc wants, canny wait to see whats next !!! |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 21:12
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And scam ad reported to PH. -------------
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Posted By: Issy
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 21:13
Well done!  Anyone we know Dunc? Im glad its staying up here maybe we will see wee kermit again or going about!! 
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Posted By: davy tombstone
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 21:14
there probably is no car Issy. too much of this going on...theivin b****rds. ------------- http://s324.photobucket.com/user/davytombstone/media/newsig_zpsd6056b1d.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 21:16
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New face Issy. He'll get told all about the club :-) -------------
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Posted By: davy tombstone
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 21:16
take it as a compliment Duncan...they usually pick the best cars. ------------- http://s324.photobucket.com/user/davytombstone/media/newsig_zpsd6056b1d.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Issy
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 21:16
Oh right!!! See Baz is not the only one with an innocent mind! Thats terrible!!  ------------- |
Posted By: fluffnik
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 21:17
Which ad reeled them in? ------------- ALPINA B10 V8 Touring #36 |
Posted By: Issy
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 21:19
thats good and he will be more then welcome if he decides to come along! So I might as well ask.............. whats next? ------------- |
Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 22:18
Double whammy - PH for the lead and then Register for further info I think. -------------
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 22:19
Watch this space... -------------
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Posted By: Cambell
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 22:22
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 22:29
With a V8 -------------
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Posted By: johne46
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 22:33
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lol Cambell, Dunk thats good news ------------- M3 Evo 4 door |
Posted By: Issy
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 23:04
haha I guesed you might say that! But no harm in asking ------------- |
Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 02-May-2011 at 23:50
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Nice to see it staying in Scotland ------------- Previous: E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets Current: 116i Sport F20 |
Posted By: malgt2
Date Posted: 03-May-2011 at 10:24
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Great to hear its been saved from the break-up duncan and still in scotland. Well done what are you planning now? P.S nice imola indy on ph ------------- Imola Individual 9/50 |