Once again BMW get it wrong
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Topic: Once again BMW get it wrong
Posted By: Cambell
Subject: Once again BMW get it wrong
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 07:26
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Looks like BMW are being run by the tree hugging marketing department instead of people passionate for the brand. Look at this http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2013/05/3-cylinder-bmw-m-model-a-possibility-says-brand-boss.html" rel="nofollow - crap , especially the last paragraph.
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Posted By: nero
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 09:58
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Bear in mind that next season's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Formula_One_season#Rule_changes" rel="nofollow - F1 rule changes mean that engines will be downsized to 1.6 litre, albeit a V6 turbo So if engines are more efficient, but provide the same power - is it a problem? -------------  |
Posted By: Cambell
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 10:41
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Yes, its a huge problem. I dont drive an F1 car and I couldn't give a crap about the environment. I bought an M car because I want the power and the knowledge that I have a monster, not a tuned up 116i.
I bought BMW because I want build quality and a prestige brand, if this trend continues, there's no point in BMW M, we should all just buy Kia and have it tuned.  |
Posted By: jimbo34
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 11:04
| Campbell, I agree with you on this. I believe a car's engine plays such a huge % in a car's overall character and personality, the likes of lambo v12s etc. Bmw M cars engines absolutely fall into this category. They have won many awards for this. It's such a shame now that we are now heading down a road where manufacturers are being pushed to develop smaller engines just to show political correctness and are not really listening to us car enthusiasts. |
Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 15:46
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Quite agree.
I'm old skool but not an old fart.
I want cubes in my engines not turbos.
I want big V8s, V10s V12 etc. I don't want some lumpy 2.0 four pot with three turbos or whatever to give the performance of my 4.4 V8.
Turbo charging within an inch of the engines life will not give a smooth revving engine. You need 6, 8 or more cylinders to give the smooth running which is what I want in an engine. An engine running at higher pressures due to charging or tunning etc can only be more unreliable. A relatively unstressed normally aspirated 6pot or V8 engines will be much more reliable.
Mibbie a supercharged V8 purely for the sound of it. ------------- Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series! Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |
Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 15:50
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A 3 cylinder engine will also sound dreadfull.
Think how awful a 3 cylinder motorbike engine sounds. A 4 pot DIEsel engine almost sounds better. ------------- Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series! Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |
Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 16:23
 there is no reason for BMW M since the E30 M3 - discuss......------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Cambell wrote:Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 18:13
IMHO, the E30 M3 doesn't have enough cylinders. End of discussion! ------------- Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series! Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |
Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 18:25
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Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 18:35
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Nah, I'm interested to hear what others think about lumpy 3 pot engines with hairdryers! ------------- Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series! Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |
Posted By: vpricey
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 19:01
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Yip agree also, just think how awful a 1.0 Corsa 3cylinder with a crappy chaved up exhaust sounds!? Is that what an M car is going to sound like in the future!? If so I'm off to Audi, they still make a nice V8! :)) ------------- Paul - '87 E30 325i Sport - '99 E39 M5 - '05 E53 X5 
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Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 19:01
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Posted By: stevie53
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 19:20
wash your mouth out young man! Anyway, they'll pipe a nice v8 sound through the speakers so that it sounds awesome inside the cabin  ------------- ///2000 E39 M5 Imola Red/// NO MORE una volta lei ha avuto l'italiano lei non andrà mai tedesco di nuovo haha |
Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 19:27
Agreed, any more of that from you VP and you're  ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Posted By: vpricey
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 19:38
Lol. I thought that would get you lot going!! But still if they're going to sound as bad as a chavved up corsa....no ta. 
------------- Paul - '87 E30 325i Sport - '99 E39 M5 - '05 E53 X5
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Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 19:47
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Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 21:07
No don't get an Audi, get a Volkswagen, you can get a Passat with a W12! Audi running gear but not driven by c ks.------------- Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series! Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |
Posted By: e36garry
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 22:46
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i want to cry..... you here corsa B's an C's all over the place and i "working one" still sounds like the tapets are dancing on the bonnet! and that's at tick over! Pardon me whilst i vomit on my own shoes -------------  Remember BHP sells cars Torque wins races! |
Posted By: Cambell
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 22:54
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Is this the correct point to introduce this ? Nuff said !
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Posted By: Robin814
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 22:55
Just means I'll have one more cylinder over an M!!!  ------------- E46 318Ci M Sport 2001 Light Gelb E39 530I Champagne I Individual Edition 2002 |
Posted By: Cambell
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 23:00
Brilliant
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Posted By: MAK
Date Posted: 15-May-2013 at 23:54
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So I take it none of us vote for the Green party then? That man with big eyebrows and a fishy name like "salmon" says its "Scotlands's oil" so we better do what we're told and use it or the country will go broke!! If anyone here owns a motorcycle and it has more than 30,000 miles on the clock it is near worthless because the smaller capacity highly tuned engines (without forced induction ) are deemed to be past their best by that point. Most of the group (including ourselves) have highly cherished motor cars which are over 5 years old and beyond the remit of manufacturers to consider goodwill claims for chronic engine failure in the future so it looks like another step towards a throw away society. I wonder which car manufacturer will start stamping all the components with the recycling codes to tell us which skip to put them in when the time comes. ------------- My Other Car is a SKODA.. really ! |
Posted By: Cambell
Date Posted: 16-May-2013 at 06:14
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Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 16-May-2013 at 08:21
I drive a V8, so no I don't vote Green
 We've had two of the coldest winters on record recently 09/10 and 10/11.
We need more big engined cars to warm the place up a bit!
None of this 3 cylinder crap. ------------- Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series! Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |