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shorty 
Really Senior Member II
Joined: 13-January-2004
Location: Falkirk, Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 1758
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 Posted: 20-February-2006 at 14:22 |
 livvy wrote:
shorty wrote:
Livvy try an experiment i have try ed on several occasions . Next time you are on the motorway drive at 70 mph . just see how many cars, vans , lorry's ( yes 16 wheeler lorry's !!! ) go whizzing past you . Where are the "enforcers" then ?
As for taking responsibility for my livelihood i HAVE to drive every day for my job & if i loose my license that is me out of a job & i know that so do you think i or any other person go out intentionally to get points on there license ? I would be more of a danger if i didn't keep up with the flow of traffic would i not ? How many people do you know that drive at 30mph in a 30 mph zone unless as Doave has pointed out they either see a police man with a radar gun or know there is a fixed camera on that road ?
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I don't need to do an experiment because I do it all the time, I don't want to get points or lose my licence.
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Good on you ! But you still didn't answer my original question , how many people in cars , vans & lorry's WHIZZ past you as you do 70 mph ?
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livvy
Really Senior Member II
Joined: 12-November-2005
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Points: 745
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 14:27 |
Oh quite a few do go past me & no doubt they'll all bitch if they get caught speeding as well  (because they don't know where the enforcers will be. If you value your licence just always believe they are there)
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My views expressed are just that.
Mine & mine alone.
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Mike Fishwick
Groupie
Joined: 26-October-2002
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 63
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Posted: 21-February-2006 at 06:59 |
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Odd, isn't it - if you commit any crime, there will always be someone to produce extenuating circumstances 'proving' that committing the crime was not REALLY your fault, but was due to your upbringing etc etc .... unless your crime is associated with motoring, in which case you are autometically guilty, and not even provided with the evidence against you if it comes from a camera. Justice? Don't make me laugh.
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Peter Fenwick
Bavarian-Board Contributor
Joined: 27-August-2003
Location: Lost somewhere in time...
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Points: 6484
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Posted: 21-February-2006 at 10:00 |
Well, I have never seen a lorry whizz past me at 70mph. All the lorries i've seen in the last few years have been doing 60mph or less, without exception.
Mike, they will only disclose the evidence if you contest the charge in court.
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Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel.
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Mike Fishwick
Groupie
Joined: 26-October-2002
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 63
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Posted: 21-February-2006 at 10:21 |
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Exactly Peter - even in the old days when one received a NIP it was accompanied by a statement of the offence, signed by the officer concerned. Now it's just a 'Pay up or else' type of thing. In most EU states, where the camera takes its pic from the front of the car, a piccy is sent, showing the driver's face and speed etc as evidence. Even in the Czech Republic of 1991 I was given a piccy as part of the on-the-spot fine for exceeding the motorcycle (and bus!) speed limit of 55 mph on a motorway.
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livvy
Really Senior Member II
Joined: 12-November-2005
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Posted: 21-February-2006 at 12:15 |
Mike Fishwick wrote:
Exactly Peter - even in the old days when one received a NIP it was accompanied by a statement of the offence, signed by the officer concerned. Now it's just a 'Pay up or else' type of thing. In most EU states, where the camera takes its pic from the front of the car, a piccy is sent, showing the driver's face and speed etc as evidence. Even in the Czech Republic of 1991 I was given a piccy as part of the on-the-spot fine for exceeding the motorcycle (and bus!) speed limit of 55 mph on a motorway.
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& some do here too, depends on the county. Some will send photos with the NIP, some not. There is of course no requirement to because at that time it is just a conditional offer. Wiltshire load the photos onto a website & then when the NIP is sent out a unique PIN number is sent with it so that you can view your personal web page with the photos relating to your case.
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My views expressed are just that.
Mine & mine alone.
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dirtybeemer
Really Senior Member II
1996 P E39 523i se
Joined: 29-January-2006
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Points: 563
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Posted: 21-February-2006 at 12:57 |
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Plead not guilty and ask for the calibration test on that camera on that day, got a few people that i know off
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Penalty points