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rhubarb7
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Nova propped up on bricks
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Aramil
Newbie Joined: 31-January-2008 Location: Nottingham Status: Offline Points: 11 |
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It had a piece of wood on top of the concrete blocks, to not damage chassis rails! Plus it only weighed peanuts - I could pick it up on my own without an engine in, and two of us could lift it up with the engine in!! |
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rhubarb7
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Buy yourself some stands mate, bricks etc break up |
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Aramil
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Yeh true, but the stands I've got didn't go high enough to get the engine under the car, as with the size of the engine & 6 speed box it has to slide under the car, not go in from above! All irrelevant anyway now, as I don't own it anymore, and I'm sure I'll splash out on some new stands for the E30 to sit comfortably on!! |
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Aramil
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Right I am now in a position to buy an E30, but need to know a lottle bit more about the differences betweem them... Ie; when is the facelift year, and what are the differences? I want to fit fibreglass arches to it, and am toying with the idea of M3 arches, or normal e30 arches, but don't know if they are interchangeable with the different models.... Also, what differences are there in parts between the engine sizes? Ie rear axles etc... As I will be using the volvo engine, and box, then a custom prop, and the only concern is rear axle... Rob. |
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Tyrefrier
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The whiteblock comes in 4, 5 and 6 cylinder versions, with the 4-cylinder in the S40/V40 etc. The 5 also comes in some versions of the Renault Safrane as well as the Focus ST a mentioned. Sometimes handy to mix and match parts. Stock turbo 5s can be had quite cheaply now. The 6 is much less common though, and nearly all autos (the 2.5 litre 6 was dropped from production) and there aren't too many M90 gearboxes around, so a Getrag might be a better route. KLRacing sell whiteblock -to-Getrag adaptor plates. The early 5s have distributors mounted on the 'rear' of the cylinder head which might give some clearance problems. Later versions and all 6s have coil on plug ignition. The throttle bodies also tend to end up on the rear of the intake manifold as well which needs attention, as well as the exhaust reorientating. The stock motor internals are of fairly good quality and safe to around the 350 bhp mark without any trouble on a 5 cylinder. Redblocks and whiteblocks are like chalk and cheese, and share no similar components. The FWD engines have full length sumps which tend to foul the crossmembers when transplanted into a RWD car. The 6-cylinder was fitted to both FWD and RWD (and 4WD) cars, and the RWD versions such as in the 960 have a rear sump which might clear more easily. Shortening this cast alloy sump to fit a 5-cylinder engine is not as easy as it sounds, as even with good preparation and welding they tend to distort and leak if given half a chance. It might be better to make up a completely new sump in aluminium or steel, or cut the 5-cylinder sump to suit? If you do happen across a 960 in a breakers yard for a sump, you could take the engine mounting brackets as well, but it is fairly easy to mount new fabricated brackets to this block anyway. If you are lucky enough to find a rarer M90 manual equipped car have the gearbox, but if not get the auto bellhousing (the auto boxes are often goosed anyway) as it could be useful for a convertion. It might also be worth having the whole 960 inlet manifold and cutting off one cylinder? These engines do have a lot of untapped potential, and are readily available and inexpensive to buy (if not to put aftermarket parts into!) You mentioned a Talbot Sunbeam fitted with a Mazda RX7 motor... in the January 2010 issue of Retro Car magazine there is a Talbot Sunbeam fitted with a 3-litre Volvo 24valve whiteblock 6 that is being twin turbocharged which might be of interest to you! Good luck with your project! |
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Aramil
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Thanks for the reply!
I have decided to go with the Audi 5 cylinder engine instead now for the record, but progress has been slim and none to be honest, what with getting a mortgage etc! Rob. |
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