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stephenperry
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Topic: Hanging the tail out...! Posted: 20-November-2004 at 15:24 |
Need a bit of advice for drifting?
Bit wary of letting my hands go of the steering wheel when tail-sliding round a corner, what happens if i do? Does the car try to follow the corner due to inertia or does it straighten up and head for the kerb?
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Daz
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Posted: 20-November-2004 at 15:32 |
stephenperry wrote:
Need a bit of advice for drifting?
Bit wary of letting my hands go of the steering wheel when tail-sliding round a corner, what happens if i do? Does the car try to follow the corner due to inertia or does it straighten up and head for the kerb?
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wooo first off practice in a big wide open space. the aecc is the best place. once you learn how she handles then consider doing it on the queens roads.
the hardest part is avoiding a tank slapper! embarrasing and not fun. best advise i can give is go to the aecc car park and give her hell there.
you must be very very quick on the wheel. it will not look pretty inside with your arms all over the place but that is what is required.
it will look better on the outside tho' good vid or pic opportunity. we can do this once the snow is here big style to save the tryres etc.
did you see the maxbimmer snow vid?
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Daz
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Posted: 20-November-2004 at 15:33 |
ace question tho'
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Pete330
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Posted: 20-November-2004 at 15:39 |
If you can avoid tail slide then i suggest you do it
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Daz
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Posted: 20-November-2004 at 16:05 |
true but he could still have a wee bit of fun off the road in a car park etc. the nanny state hasn't yet stopped us from having fun in private property. - yet!
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Daz
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Posted: 20-November-2004 at 16:06 |
pete323 wrote:
If you can avoid tail slide then i suggest you do it
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who's car is that pete? or was it just a google search?
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spokey
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Posted: 20-November-2004 at 16:07 |
pete323 wrote:
If you can avoid tail slide then i suggest you do it |
That's a very distressing picture, but I have to say that if I didn't practice hanging the tail out from time to time, I'd not have been able to recover from a really nasty bit of aquaplaning (complete with tankslapper!) and I'd probably not be here to make this observation, either.
Just do it somewhere safe, is all I can say.
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Ciao,
Spokey
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barf
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Posted: 20-November-2004 at 16:18 |
jeff heywood is organising skid pan training for club members at the staffordshire police facility. i went with paul kelly and a few other members last saturday, and i have to say it was quite a laugh sliding the old sierra (with slick rear tyres) on a wet, oily surface. in my opinion, £30 very well spent. i might book the wife on the women only session in february (cheaper than a big diamond, and the change will fund a trip to the ring...the one in germany!!!
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stephenperry
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Posted: 20-November-2004 at 16:19 |
just asking cos ive recovered from a fair few slides at low speed in various rwd cars, some deliberate, some unintentional, some fishtailers/tank slappers, some not bad efforts, although im not that confident to really push it while going fast
my question was prompted by magazines, videos ive read and watched where people get the a*** out, then let go of the steering wheel and grip again to hold the angle (evo magazine "car of the year 2001" cover cd), but then again others, like the best motoring "drift bible" dvd, the guy never lets go of the wheel
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1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX
1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX
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Pete330
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Posted: 20-November-2004 at 16:21 |
silverbeastie wrote:
pete323 wrote:
If you can avoid tail slide then i suggest you do it
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who's car is that pete? or was it just a google search?
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Its Ben from Chromeline Design (e36coupe.com)
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Pete330
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Posted: 20-November-2004 at 16:22 |
If you want to practice slides etc
Take some lessons with Accidont or others
Why risk crashing your own car when you could crash someone elses LOL
Edited by pete323
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stephenperry
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Posted: 20-November-2004 at 16:25 |
barf wrote:
jeff heywood is organising skid pan training for club members at the staffordshire police facility. i went with paul kelly and a few other members last saturday, and i have to say it was quite a laugh sliding the old sierra (with slick rear tyres) on a wet, oily surface. in my opinion, £30 very well spent. i might book the wife on the women only session in february (cheaper than a big diamond, and the change will fund a trip to the ring...the one in germany!!! |
i wonder if thats the same facility as was featured in the roadcraft police training dvd, they used an old sierra 2.0 gls
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2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto
1983 Ford Sierra XR4i
2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118
1999 BMW 323Ci
1995 BMW 318i SE
1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS
1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX
1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX
1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL
1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly
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stephenperry
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Posted: 20-November-2004 at 16:27 |
silverbeastie wrote:
stephenperry wrote:
Need a bit of advice for drifting?
Bit wary of letting my hands go of the steering wheel when tail-sliding round a corner, what happens if i do? Does the car try to follow the corner due to inertia or does it straighten up and head for the kerb?
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wooo first off practice in a big wide open space. the aecc is the best place. once you learn how she handles then consider doing it on the queens roads.
the hardest part is avoiding a tank slapper! embarrasing and not fun. best advise i can give is go to the aecc car park and give her hell there.
you must be very very quick on the wheel. it will not look pretty inside with your arms all over the place but that is what is required.
it will look better on the outside tho' good vid or pic opportunity. we can do this once the snow is here big style to save the tryres etc.
did you see the maxbimmer snow vid?
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i havent yet, but ive just been sent it, cheers for the info
anyone fancying a "fun in the snow" meet while the weather is bad?
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2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto
1983 Ford Sierra XR4i
2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118
1999 BMW 323Ci
1995 BMW 318i SE
1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS
1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX
1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX
1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL
1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly
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stephenperry
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Posted: 20-November-2004 at 16:31 |
pete323 wrote:
If you want to practice slides etc
Take some lessons with Accidont or others
Why risk crashing your own car when you could crash someone elses LOL
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so i take it you wont let me drive your car Pete?
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2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto
1983 Ford Sierra XR4i
2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118
1999 BMW 323Ci
1995 BMW 318i SE
1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS
1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX
1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX
1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL
1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly
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Daz
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Posted: 21-November-2004 at 08:17 |
stephenperry wrote:
silverbeastie wrote:
stephenperry wrote:
Need a bit of advice for drifting?
Bit wary of letting my hands go of the steering wheel when tail-sliding round a corner, what happens if i do? Does the car try to follow the corner due to inertia or does it straighten up and head for the kerb?
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wooo first off practice in a big wide open space. the aecc is the best place. once you learn how she handles then consider doing it on the queens roads.
the hardest part is avoiding a tank slapper! embarrasing and not fun. best advise i can give is go to the aecc car park and give her hell there.
you must be very very quick on the wheel. it will not look pretty inside with your arms all over the place but that is what is required.
it will look better on the outside tho' good vid or pic opportunity. we can do this once the snow is here big style to save the tryres etc.
did you see the maxbimmer snow vid?
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i havent yet, but ive just been sent it, cheers for the info
anyone fancying a "fun in the snow" meet while the weather is bad?
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I'd be up for that but it must be somewhere wide open like the aecc car park. don't fancy hitting a spectator or their car.
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Daz
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Posted: 21-November-2004 at 08:18 |
barf wrote:
will fund a trip to the ring...the one in germany!!! |
I like your sense of humour. LOL
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nero
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Posted: 21-November-2004 at 11:19 |
silverbeastie wrote:
stephenperry wrote:
silverbeastie wrote:
stephenperry wrote:
Need a bit of advice for drifting?
Bit wary of letting my hands go of the steering wheel when tail-sliding round a corner, what happens if i do? Does the car try to follow the corner due to inertia or does it straighten up and head for the kerb?
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wooo first off practice in a big wide open space. the aecc is the best place. once you learn how she handles then consider doing it on the queens roads.
the hardest part is avoiding a tank slapper! embarrasing and not fun. best advise i can give is go to the aecc car park and give her hell there.
you must be very very quick on the wheel. it will not look pretty inside with your arms all over the place but that is what is required.
it will look better on the outside tho' good vid or pic opportunity. we can do this once the snow is here big style to save the tryres etc.
did you see the maxbimmer snow vid?
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i havent yet, but ive just been sent it, cheers for the info
anyone fancying a "fun in the snow" meet while the weather is bad?
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I'd be up for that but it must be somewhere wide open like the aecc car park. don't fancy hitting a spectator or their car. |
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stephenperry
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Posted: 21-November-2004 at 12:31 |
well the frost we had yesterday @ -2.5c has all gone, its just back to rainy and cold
looks like i'll have to wait a bit longer for some drifting practice
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2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto
1983 Ford Sierra XR4i
2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118
1999 BMW 323Ci
1995 BMW 318i SE
1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS
1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX
1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX
1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL
1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly
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alanross
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Posted: 21-November-2004 at 17:00 |
I bought a E30 323i a number of years ago and the guy took me for a test drive with a dirrerence.
Around Motherwell there was a one way system with plenty of roundabouts. We broadsided from one to another right round town. Superb I thought but should this guy not be takin it easy and kiddin on to me he is a Sunday driver?
After that fun I was hooked and with a dog leg box and a private plate thrown in too. Brilliant
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Nigel
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Posted: 21-November-2004 at 18:06 |
Gentlemen
Please dont use the forum to organise events of this kind unless they are off the queens highway.
Edited by Nigel
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Best Wishes
Nigel
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