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    Posted: 09-November-2004 at 07:15

I know some here are interested by going this way to get a bit more out of our cars!

I was myself interested in doing it. After looking at it I found a couple of possibilities around dublin, working out @+/- 500€.

Then browsing on the forum it looks like one of our fellow member (chippeduk) as very good review for his products. I am now in contact with him. For me, he'll need to do a rolling mapping (something like this!, he need my car anyway), so I have two options:

1) I am the only one interested in ireland so I have to drive to birmingham to get it done,

2) We are few interested, we split the cost of flying him over+guinness+macdonald.

Typical cost are 50/75£ for chip and around 125£ for mapping (maybe a bit more for //Ms).

For those like me with a 2.8L M52 engine, if we add the M50 manifold/throttle body we are good for 25hp extra and 500£ less in the bank! (32€/hp )

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-November-2004 at 07:30
given that the M52 manifold & TB conversion gives about 20 ponies - does a chip not throw more than about 5 on top of this?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-November-2004 at 07:32

i can get 17hp in many cases on the 2.8.

i am unsure of exact figure when added to the inlet by alpina527 but it will be noticable and impressive.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-November-2004 at 07:38

fair enough - I don't know why but I had assumed gains of about 20 or 30bhp on the 2.5 M52 with a proper chip & remap (not including manifold & TB).

@lodo - if chippeduk did come over here, when & where would you think of doing this? (remembering that it must be close to a McDonalds)!



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i guess the word has got around that i am partial to a burger :D
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-November-2004 at 08:12

Originally posted by chippeduk chippeduk wrote:

i guess the word has got around that i am partial to a burger :D

Yeah, I saw this on another thread!

For the hp gain i was just saying 25hp to be conservative (is that english? well you know what I mean! )

I personnaly hope to be around 230hp at the crank and >200 at the wheels.

For the planning, I would say early 2005 because we need to source M50 manifold (i think Alpina527 is out opf stock at the moment!)

For the location, I have a couple of idea in mind as I know a guy who run a truck business so he has warhouse space around athlone (yes, we also have macdonal in athlone, 2 to be precise!).

Sure Dublin would be more convenient but I don't have contacts there! ;-)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-November-2004 at 10:44

I got my 170bhp 2.5 523i remapped and gained 15 or 16bhp as per rolling road. I guess that the supersprint exhaust backbox and resinator pipe should have added another 5bhp so i'm now looking at 190bhp. I'm sure it would have to be a very special mapping job to gain more than 10% from a normally aspirated petrol engine, but then again maybe i'm wrong. I got mine done through LogicAutomotive, and was €400.

I contacted alpina527 and he is very short on m50 manifolds, so maybe a group search might be in order for donor manifolds, and perhaps we could get someone to do the job here. I've been told that with larger throttle body/m50 manifold 15/20bhp extra wouldn't be unrealistic, so perhaps that would mean 205/210bhp for my 523i. A combination of chip and manifold/throttle body should add approx 30/35bhp.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-November-2004 at 11:03

Thanks for the info!

For the manifold I will start to look for them in France (insurance being very strict in france, not many people mod their cars!), then we could ship them to alpina who could install is kit and finally we could do a group install! With few brains I am sure we can sort out any kind of problem!

You might have to reprog yours if you add the M50 manifold because by doing so you'll change your fuel mixture? maybe the ECU can adapt?

 



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Before you try France try...

Traynors Ltd Scrap Dealers
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86 Armagh Road,
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Co. Tyrone,
BT71 7JA
Tel: 048-38891242
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-November-2004 at 11:08
I've heard that the ecu can adapt to the change and will not require a further remapping. Let me know how you get on with your search. Manifolds apparently can be hard to source because very few will be sold without the engine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-November-2004 at 12:18
Originally posted by kbannon kbannon wrote:

Before you try France try...

Traynors Ltd Scrap Dealers
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86 Armagh Road,
Moy,
Dungannon,
Co. Tyrone,
BT71 7JA
Tel: 048-38891242
Fax: 048-38891611

I'll give hime a call tomorrow,

Thanks

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-November-2004 at 12:24
you can mail them to.They reply pretty quik.. Traynors

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-November-2004 at 13:44
Im interested as I was going to get this done in England when I was home some time.  Although Im not exactly enamoured with driving to Athlone to get it done?! Surely there will be more people around Dublin? Im interested in the throttle body and manifold idea aswell
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-November-2004 at 13:53
Can a 330 CI be chipped ? Is so what are expected gains ?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-November-2004 at 15:22

If you find a manifold, it must be part number 1 735 730 2.5 or alternatively, 1 735 728 2.5. No other number will do. They are fitted to E36 325 and E34 525 models from 92-96. They need extensive modification, which will take about a week. The bodies are always in stock.

The part number is located under the throttle body hole.

If you have any doubt about which manifold you have, please email me on alpina527@aol.com or phone/text +447968391056

Make sure they aren't from the 2 litre!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-November-2004 at 03:44
Originally posted by alpina527 alpina527 wrote:

If you find a manifold, it must be part number 1 735 730 2.5 or alternatively, 1 735 728 2.5. No other number will do. They are fitted to E36 325 and E34 525 models from 92-96. They need extensive modification, which will take about a week. The bodies are always in stock.

The part number is located under the throttle body hole.

If you have any doubt about which manifold you have, please email me on alpina527@aol.com or phone/text +447968391056

Make sure they aren't from the 2 litre!!

Thanks For the part numbers! I'll let you know if I manage to get my hand on few of them.

Iwas saying athlone because it's where I am but if we can do it around dublin no problem either!

For the 330ci, i would think it's not a chip it will need to be rolling re-map! I guess that it would be good for 14hp or so.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-November-2004 at 05:28

Ludo,

I'm strongly considering doing the same and would be on for splitting the cost of flying over chippeduk if he can sort me out too.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-November-2004 at 05:35

I may drive over and bring the wife and son for a weekend away.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-November-2004 at 05:58
Originally posted by chippeduk chippeduk wrote:

I may drive over and bring the wife and son for a weekend away.

Do we have to pay for their McDonalds also?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-November-2004 at 06:15

We might try to set up a group buy for the macdonald!

 

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