Budget Day

Ballcock wrote: So a brand new 520d as mentioned above will incur annual road tax of only €150 from Jul '08 ? Not a bad deal. Like others I too would like to know where I stand with my E34 with no CO2 emmsions data available......

If you are already registered - I think you just carry on under the current system. I am wondering though if they gap will close between the two systems over every consecutive budget for the next 3/4 years untill they are one and the same.

However if you bring in something that has no CE cert (Full document) then they have left the door open to charge the highest rate.

Paragraph extracted below -

7. Determining CO2 emission levels of vehicles
The CO2 emission rating for each new car being registered will normally be determined based on the emissions information contained in the model’s Certificate of Conformity, a document which, since 2001, European law has required to contain such information. In respect of used imports, the CO2 rating will have to be declared on form VRT4 (Declaration for registration of a used vehicle) by the person registering the vehicle. The declaration will be required to be supported by documentary evidence of the CO2 rating, for example, a Certificate of Conformity, a previous registration certificate, or a certificate from the manufacturer or a main distributor, provided in each case the CO2 rating is included; or a certificate from an
organisation approved by the Revenue Commissioners to provide such certificates. Where a certificate or a measurement is not available or fails to satisfy the Revenue Commissioners, the VRT tax charged could be set at the maximum VRT rate allowable. Such a VRT rating would be open to appeal through the VRT appeals system.

Similar to here so.  Looks like we might see an increase in these unless they close that loophole off also.
BTW the X5 3.0D will have an annual road tax of €1,000.00 as opposed to €1,231 under the current revised rates. Not a bad saving.

Don520 wrote: And what about drivers of low emisions cars registered already, my wifes pays Û313 for her 1.5DCI, if she bought it in July she would pay Û150...

 

Thats where the system is totally flawed, he gap is even bigger on say a 320D. Under the current system its about 500 odd for a 2.0L engine. Under the new system its 150 to tax a 320D from July on.

kbannon wrote: And again, no sympathy is applied to owners of 2 or more cars in taxation terms!

Of course not. It doesn't effect them as Government vehicles are exempt - but us punters trying to get on with life, just get shafted more.  If it was private company treating contracted customers like this can you imagine the uproar there would be.

I think we need a revolution. What about a PAYE strike, maybe the French are not so wrong after all.  All private employers withhold all PAYE nationally for a week and donate it to a charity in Africa or somewhere.  Hurt them in their pockets like the hurt us.  Too idealistic I know but what else can we do.  Immigrate???

Sorry Ranting

Typing in anger is never good!  Brain is moving faster thnn fingers.

What about a fleet of these - 24k in Oz, 6.0L V8, 360 HP - few bags of cement in teh rear for track days and. Import for mid 30k inc VAt, claim it back, Annual road Tax €277.00  Could be a business here.




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What does this mean for the M drivers ? Are M cars gonna retain more value after the VRT rule comes in?

 

I mean importing a E36/46 M3 from July 2008 will be more expensive right?

 

You can bet the OMSP on cars will be a joke from now until then!

 

I though road tax was just going up 11% on the high emission cars? 3.0 cars going from €1300 up 11%? that’s not 2k??

the swiss drive on the right but they are 10% below the eu average when it comes to buying cars. just look at the eu pic on this site and you can see hows its spread at the minute or untill next year anyway.

http://www.finfacts.com/irelandbusinessnews/publish/article_ 10005755.shtml

diesel is spreading.

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/vehiclesandfuels/facts/2007_fcvt _fotw481.html

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Would anyone know what the carbon emmissions is for a 1996 e36 318is 1.9cc is suppose to be.

On the flip side a 330d will now only cost €600 to tax - the same as the old 1.9 petrol engine.....

Ballcock wrote: The turbo jap nutter fraternity looks like they will be nailed hardest with Evo's and Scooby Turbo's now all in the €2k tax bracket....

That's if the reg them next year with the new system. If I was to reg the wife's 2.8td showgun according to the new system with a 342 g/km output it will cost €2000. Now that is a big jump. There goes the resale value.

The current price for tax is €1033 with the new 11% increase this brings it up to €1146 an increase of €113 you can see where they are meeting the shortfall with the government coppers. The try to squeeze every penny out of us they can. At least Dick Turpin wore a mask, the milllions they spent on tribunal's ugh dont get me started

 

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