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Points: 2526 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-November-2004 at 07:33
I think it's the 325ci that has the 192bhp and the 323ci that has 172bhp so maybe thats whats being refered to is it???

Just checked it...the new 325ci has 192bhp fact!

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Originally posted by dave 328 dave 328 wrote:



When did chippeduk say 8bhp?

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Originally posted by dave 328 dave 328 wrote:



210bhp from a 2.5 is only 17bhp extra, so not
impossible!!. I got an extra 6bhp just from a sports
filter - RR proven.  

The 323 only has 170bhp so 210 is a jump of 40bhp or nearly 25%. This still ok or gonna be too much for the car. Does an having an auto box make a difference?

 

On another note - anyone know what's the name of the guy with the rolling road near Enfield?
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Points: 835 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-November-2004 at 07:00
Originally posted by JohnH JohnH wrote:

chippedup says the remap will
only give an 8bhp gain. Ludo seems to think that a
remap then the manifold and throttle body might be
too much for the ECU.


Dave328 reckons on 210bhp+ from the lot
(sounds nice!)


Opinions / Advice anyone?



When did chippeduk say 8bhp? This is usually the
power increase on smaller engines like a 316. On
the bigger engines, more extra power is to be had.
Superchips quote 13bhp extra, chippeduk typically
gets more than Superchips. Superchips quote an
extra 20bhp for the 4.0 litre - just from a chip!

210bhp from a 2.5 is only 17bhp extra, so not
impossible!!. I got an extra 6bhp just from a sports
filter - RR proven.

It has been proven that just taking the viscous fan off
can yield an extra 6bhp, then abit more using
different pulleys!

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Points: 835 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-November-2004 at 06:45
I got my manifold for £80. It has 12 ribs, well 9 full
ones and 3 shorter ones to the left of the TB.

I was given a price of £250!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I ask them if it was brand new, it wasn't.

They'd be better off using it on their behinds so when
they talk bulls&*t, they can talk quicker.

The manifolds are £300 + vat brandnew from BMW.

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Points: 15508 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-November-2004 at 06:09
also try this lad for parts:-
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Points: 696 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-November-2004 at 05:49

thats what they are refering too mate.

alpina needs them to get the manifold then ship it to him to modify.
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Points: 879 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-November-2004 at 05:37
Originally posted by JohnH JohnH wrote:

I have contacted FABDirect to see if they have manifolds - i'll hear from them today.

Who's the best person to get to do the work??

I'll personnally go with alpina as he have a good reputation on the forums and I'd rather give my money to him than to some unknown. He has good price (£350 for the throttle body and manifold, as a reminder I think eurosport have a kit for nearly 1000€!) and quick turnaround (send him the manifold, it will take him a week to do the work on it!)

 
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fab will charge you roughly 2.5 times the price anyone else does.

but there service is second to none !
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Points: 1315 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-November-2004 at 04:52

I have contacted FABDirect to see if they have manifolds - i'll hear from them today.

Who's the best person to get to do the work??
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75 euro is an awesome price.
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I should have more info on manifold on monday, so far the best price I got is 75€. Unfortunately it's a bank holiday in france, all those lazy b*****d are off until monday!

I talked to alpina527 yesterday and he told me the max price we should be paying for the manifold is £50.
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Any chips for the M54 engine in the 320 coupe ????? (2.2litre)

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Excellent.
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i do obd2 mapping as well as chipping.
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Points: 82 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-November-2004 at 15:40
Guys I think this is a great idea. I think I might be able to get my hands on the forementioned manifold as well. I'm up for a re-map day in 2005.

Does CHippedUK do OBD2 remaps now as well ??? I thought it was just the OBD1 Eeproms he did.
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Points: 68 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-November-2004 at 13:53

Dave: The correct type has 12 ribs to the left side of the throttle body, The other type has 5 ribs to the left. These are no good for my conversion. I have pictures if you need them at alpina527@aol.com

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Points: 696 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-November-2004 at 12:59

i always quote minimum gains as this way there are no comebacks or people dissapointed.

i quote 14hp on the m3 when in fact i have never seen one do less than a 20hp gain.
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Points: 1315 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-November-2004 at 12:56

chippedup says the remap will only give an 8bhp gain. Ludo seems to think that a remap then the manifold and throttle body might be too much for the ECU.

Dave328 reckons on 210bhp+ from the lot (sounds nice!)

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Points: 946 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-November-2004 at 11:36
Anyone have any luck yet in sourcing donor m50 manifolds. It seems that this is the first hurdle to be jumped. However, it is probably better to get the chip done first, which will add an extra 10%. That should definetly add more than 8bhp. However, the most important improvement is in the torque which is very noticeable on the open road. 
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Points: 835 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-November-2004 at 11:24
Originally posted by alpina527 alpina527 wrote:

If you find a manifold, it must be part number 1 735 730 2.5 or alternatively, 1 735 728 2.5. No other number will do. They are fitted to E36 325 and E34 525 models from 92-96. They need extensive modification, which will take about a week. The bodies are always in stock.

The part number is located under the throttle body hole.

If you have any doubt about which manifold you have, please email me on alpina527@aol.com or phone/text +447968391056

Make sure they aren't from the 2 litre!!

Ian,

How do they differ? Wasn't there a certain amount of ribs that can be counted too?


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