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stephenperry
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Posted: 11-January-2005 at 19:03 | |
ask on www.traffic-answers.com they were invaluable when it came to my misdemeanour 15 over is on the borderline for a standard 3-point £60 fixed penalty, if theyd clocked you at one more mph youd be staring at 6 points |
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Peter Fenwick
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 27-August-2003 Location: Lost somewhere in time... Status: Offline Points: 6484 |
Posted: 12-January-2005 at 09:17 | |
Spokey, I'm not going to respond to all your comments. I doubt I would be able to change you mind so I don't see any point. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion so lets leave it at that I will however respond to a coment Nigel made, of course remembering that he is a moderator so I had better tread carefully! I think that having to breath other peoples smoke interferes with my life. If smoking causes cancer then passive smoking does, end of story. You are breathing in exactly the same chemicals as if you were smoking all be it in lower concentrations. It's easy to say go somewhere else, but why should I not be able to go to my favourite restaurant without having to endure the people at the table next lighting up between every course. It's even worse if you are in the middle of a course when they are finished. I don't agree with banning smoking everywhere like in LA, but pubs and restaurants should at least have separate areas. Just to put it another way, how would you like it if I sat on the next table to you when you were out having a meal and farted for the entire time. It would make it a little bit unpleasant and I can assure you that I find the smell of cigarette smoke every bit as umpleasant. As for Fox hunting, I won't go down this track as I know it is a very contentious issue other than to say that my veiws on this are a lot deeer than just stopping people doing something because I don't happen to like it. With respect to banning smacking I don't think that most parents who chastise their children will be affected. The law is designed to children being beaten. I agree entirely with your comments on speed cameras. My final point would be that these laws are brought in because people put pressure on the government. You can gaurantee that for any view you or anyone else has there will be just as many people argueing the opposite side.
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 12-January-2005 at 18:50 | |
In response to your smoking arguement Peter, why should I have to leave my favourite pub or resturant just because you've bought into the passive smoking lobby ? I hear what you say, but to be honest, if you want to clean the air up so much how come you drive around in a large engined BMW ?, would a clean little smart car be more ideal ?, or an lpg conversion etc etc. I guess its your choice to drive a large engined BMW, is it right that you should force others to breath the exhaust fumes of your choice ? Get the idea ? All in jest Peter, but I'm sure you get the point, anti smoking is just a fad, they seem to be getting bored with that now, and are starting on booze. |
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Peter Fenwick
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 27-August-2003 Location: Lost somewhere in time... Status: Offline Points: 6484 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 04:23 | |
Nigel, while I appreciate the comparison between cars and smoking I do think they are different, for example I don''t have a problem with smoking outside and I wouldn't dream of driving my car into the local pub Not worth going any further with this one. We ain't gonna change each others minds so there isn't much point in flogging it.
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kbannon
Admin Group E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 04:49 | |
WRT smoking, Ireland introduced a ban in all enclosed workplaces (there are a few exceptions) last year. The publicans (a category many policitians fall into) predicted doom and gloom and that the country would implode in a matter of weeks. Initially a few pubs tried to ignore the ban and got an official warning and they fell into line. The publicans still whinged that they were suffering from drastically falling profits (something most people would agree were too high as drink prices had risen sharply in the last few years). Anyway, nowadays, smokers must go outside. Many pubs manage to organise a sheltered &/or heated area where people can sit whilst smoking & drinking. The only real drawback of having smoke free air in pubs is the fact that you can now smell all the farts, etc. Anyway, apparently smoking outside it is now one of the best places to socialise and indeed is the best place to pull whilst on a night out! |
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 13-January-2005 at 05:51 | |
LOL |
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 06:14 | |
So, more discrimination against non-smokers. We don't get smoke breaks at work, either. |
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Spokey |
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kbannon
Admin Group E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 06:33 | |
spokey, you may have a case for discrimination.
read this and then contact Ivan/Horsetan who will represent you (for a small presumably)fee. If you win, then you should donate loads of your compo to us for helping you out! |
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Peter Fenwick
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 27-August-2003 Location: Lost somewhere in time... Status: Offline Points: 6484 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 06:54 | |
I agree with this, how come smokers get to take more breaks at work than me!! |
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 07:15 | |
I started to read it, but dozed off... I'll just tag along for a "virtual", I think. |
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Spokey |
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 14:04 | |
[/QUOTE] I agree with this, how come smokers get to take more breaks at work than me!! [/QUOTE] Because people like you want to enforce your opinions on others and do your best to stop them enjoying a ciggy whilst they work ! Simple really. Tin hat on...awaiting response !!!! |
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Nigel |
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 14:33 | |
I remember once doing a gig for British American Tobacco. One of the managers had a sign saying "Thank you for smoking in this office"
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Ciao,
Spokey |
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 14:46 | |
I'vre spoken to my boss about any incoming ban, I will be able to smoke anywhere at work I want, whenever I want, have as many breaks as I wish as long as my work is done, I can even set my own holidays and salary level. Lovely bloke my boss, pity there arent more around like him. |
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Nigel |
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stephenperry
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 14:48 | |
Let me guess, you're a self-employed schizophrenic! Edited by stephenperry |
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B 7 VP
Really Senior Member II Joined: 04-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1115 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 15:03 | |
Just to bring the Gatso,s subject back in focus (after a Drag (Smoke) or 2.Mr Edgar, who was shafted by CPS- Crown Prosecution(NON) Service the Hearing was applied to be adjourned--Cos the Mire has hit the Fan.HE asked for a days hearing--they said 2 Hours!! So much Publicity++ Fleet St--now means that Bliar and the Safety slime , dont know what to say.The Court want to Fast Foward the case, Guilty-GBye, -- But-it aint gonna be like that.So await new hearing date.Does that tell YOU--what the Govt Think you will believe- anything it says?????? You Know it makes Sense !!! |
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 17:02 | |
Give it another go John, preferably in some tounge I can understand. Are you saying the gentleman who has found a timing error on one or more camera(s) wanted a days hearing, and the scamera lot want it done and dusted in two hours ? When no one else is around of course, and with reporting restrictions. |
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still looking
Senior Member II Joined: 11-May-2004 Location: Wales now, originally Scotland Status: Offline Points: 194 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 19:57 | |
If you want to smoke then go outside, they say there is nothing worse than a reformed smoker and I agree coz I am one, 12 years 30 a day then thought why! so stopped. My wife also smoked, decided to stop then 3 months later we were pregnant after 12 years of trying. As they say smoking IS bad for you but no government health warnings about driving a big car. For what its worth when Tories were in, my mortgage was 16%, nuf said coz thats what matters to us at the end of the day, also Tory said they would not increase taxes!, correct they just created a few new ones. Mark Labour through and through. P.S the two most common causes of war are politics and religon, so dont start scrapping, everyone has an opinion and an opinion is like an -----ole, everyone has one its just not nice to air it in public. Edited by still looking |
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stephenperry
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 20:12 | |
"If you want to smoke then go outside, they say there is nothing worse than a reformed smoker and I agree coz I am one, 12 years 30 a day then thought why! so stopped." seems a bit 'matter-of-fact', a lot of people lack the dogged determination and steely nerve require to just go "cold turkey", did you find it difficult to give up the fags? i'm a non-smoker apart from the very occasional cigar at christmas or new year |
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 13-January-2005 at 20:15 | |
What, both of you??? |
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Spokey |
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Rhys
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Posted: 13-January-2005 at 20:22 | |
you are going to have one sore rear end... |
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