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215m3
Really Senior Member II Joined: 10-May-2003 Location: Bathgate Status: Offline Points: 2118 |
Posted: 03-March-2005 at 05:19 |
Kevin
Speak to Dave as he might have one as he builds his engines from what i've heard. |
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stevesingo
Really Senior Member II Joined: 03-January-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 795 |
Posted: 03-March-2005 at 07:33 |
What is quoted by the manufacturers is the static compression ratio which has little relevance to the engine when it is running. See HERE for more details Steve |
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Jonners
Really Senior Member II Joined: 23-September-2003 Status: Offline Points: 601 |
Posted: 03-March-2005 at 09:10 |
another advantage of the later cars (i think) is that straightforward bog standard unleaded is ok
whereas on earlier cars it's ok but with a power loss Uwe?? |
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M3Nally
Really Senior Member II Joined: 28-May-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1302 |
Posted: 03-March-2005 at 10:05 |
Toby,
Cheers, which Dave is that then and what is his number? PM please if don't want to give details on here. Kevin |
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UweM3
Moderator Group Joined: 11-February-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5445 |
Posted: 03-March-2005 at 10:24 |
Nothing to do with earlier or newer cars. ALL M3's are running fine with unleaded, EXECPT the EVO2 which always should be run on 98 Oktan fuel because of the ignition timing. If you want to run the EVO2 on any fuel with less than 98Oktan you need to "switch" the ECU to the 95Oktan map. Or take your chances....... |
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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Coasting
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 10:57 |
I run my E46 on Optimax only. If I get really desperate I'll go with BP Ultimate, but find a definate difference if I use anything less than that.
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UweM3
Moderator Group Joined: 11-February-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5445 |
Posted: 03-March-2005 at 11:02 |
Coasting,
you engine has a knock sensor fitted which senses the quality of fuel used and adapts the ignition accordingly. Our old bangers don't do this. So if you fill it up with lower Oktan petrol than mapped it goes BANG! BTW that BP stuff is crap. It burns faster than I can fill the tank up! And smells funny. |
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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Jonners
Really Senior Member II Joined: 23-September-2003 Status: Offline Points: 601 |
Posted: 03-March-2005 at 11:39 |
Uwe - the informationmeister...
thanks for that - always stayed clear of early cars because i thought unleaded would be a problem - infact i bottled out and bought an evo sport so i was certain it would be a late one... |
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UweM3
Moderator Group Joined: 11-February-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5445 |
Posted: 03-March-2005 at 12:03 |
Jonners, not the lead is the issue. The Oktan rating of the petrol. And of course if a catalytic converter is fitted than unleaded is a must, whatever Okan it is.
But I believe you're not unhappy with your "mistake" |
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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lancelotII
Really Senior Member II Joined: 24-November-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 853 |
Posted: 04-March-2005 at 04:06 |
Exactly the reason why I had mine mapped on std unleaded, as I couldn't be certain that I would always be able to get the high octane stuff. |
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UweM3
Moderator Group Joined: 11-February-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5445 |
Posted: 04-March-2005 at 07:12 |
Or you know somebody clever mapping your car on 98 AND 95 and you use the fuel quality wires to switch between the maps
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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kevs635csi
Really Senior Member I Joined: 22-August-2004 Location: cardiff Status: Offline Points: 275 |
Posted: 04-March-2005 at 14:46 |
what about my cecotto what does that supposed to use , i just stick normal unleaded in
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cool as the fonz!!
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215m3
Really Senior Member II Joined: 10-May-2003 Location: Bathgate Status: Offline Points: 2118 |
Posted: 04-March-2005 at 14:50 |
Kev
It all depends on which clips are connected. There next to the ecu on the left. one blue and one black. there quite long thin connectors as well. both connected and should run on Ron 98 {optimax), blue only connected Ron 95 is ok. |
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kevs635csi
Really Senior Member I Joined: 22-August-2004 Location: cardiff Status: Offline Points: 275 |
Posted: 04-March-2005 at 15:32 |
ill have a look soon , is the ecu under the glovebox or on the drivers side on the m3 (cant remember) normal e30s its above the s/column, i used to be a vauxhall mech years ago & they had a simelar thing of an octane pug which you simply turned over ,one side for 95ron & the other for 98ron they were colour coded too for different models
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cool as the fonz!!
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Darren M
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-October-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 533 |
Posted: 04-March-2005 at 16:21 |
It`s inside the glovebox.Easy to get to - just a few screws to remove.
Edited by Darren M |
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215m3
Really Senior Member II Joined: 10-May-2003 Location: Bathgate Status: Offline Points: 2118 |
Posted: 04-March-2005 at 16:43 |
Here's a pic from Uwe's posting on another thread. The green arrow points to a black block, but it's the connecter, the same shap as the blue one just above/behind it.
This will give you some idea. HTH's |
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Rob L
Really Senior Member I Joined: 22-October-2002 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 384 |
Posted: 04-March-2005 at 17:47 |
So does this apply to my Sport Evo, should i always run super U 98
(optimax normally) Is it ok to run 95 standard stuff now and then when you cant get any super U? Will it have this plug you mentioned to switch between the grades? |
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stevesingo
Really Senior Member II Joined: 03-January-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 795 |
Posted: 05-March-2005 at 01:48 |
Yes it does. I find my Sport Evo runs best with both connectors connecter (98 RON Map) but running on 95 RON unleaded. Smoother idle, more responsive on part throttle and will still hit the limiter in top even with the front/rear spoilers in position 2/3 respectivly. The standard MAPs are quite consevative I think that running this way is closer to the optimum when using good quality fuels. Steve Edited by stevesingo |
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215m3
Really Senior Member II Joined: 10-May-2003 Location: Bathgate Status: Offline Points: 2118 |
Posted: 05-March-2005 at 03:03 |
Gary used to runs his SE on normal 95 and he's not sure if both connectors are connected but suspect it is. He does/did get some pinking, but now runs on 98.
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UweM3
Moderator Group Joined: 11-February-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5445 |
Posted: 05-March-2005 at 04:04 |
Ok again.
DO NOT RUN 95 OKTAN fuel with the 98 Oktan map!!!!!!!! Have a guess why this map is called 98 Oktan map? The better response is coming from the "sharper" ignition timing. But this could only be done because 98 Oktan is used. Anything less will cause pinking --> destruction! I can put you in touch with a fellow M3 owner blowing his engine up that way. The danger lies in the high speed pinking at WOT. You cant hear it, but this does the most damage. |
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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