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jrafferty
Really Senior Member I Joined: 22-February-2005 Location: dublin/northside Status: Offline Points: 341 |
Topic: Anyone looking for a project? Posted: 25-March-2005 at 12:28 |
their O.M.S.P are very innacurate.if i went by their prices id have two 1993 325i conv for the same price as what they value my car.
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jrafferty
Really Senior Member I Joined: 22-February-2005 Location: dublin/northside Status: Offline Points: 341 |
Posted: 25-March-2005 at 12:25 |
i used the online v.r.t calculater before i went over for the car.there was no listing for a 1985 323i conv. here is what i calculated: 1985 320i conv=€350 1986 325i conv=€600 1985 323i saloon=€400 prices are not accurate as i cant remember exactly but they are within €30 accuracy. based on the prices above i figured i would have to pay about €500. well i was wrong. |
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Fey!
Bavarian-Board Contributor Funs over, Scotty; beam down my clothes! Joined: 28-February-2005 Location: Galway Status: Offline Points: 4161 |
Posted: 25-March-2005 at 06:47 |
A guy took on revenue years back stating it was a tax on a tax, but lost. Grounds may have been that if he had won, then the state would have been brought to court by every person to have ever paid VRT, and on precedent would have lost them all and had to refund them all, which would have crippled the country. The next time you're bringing a car in, log on to www.revenue.ie and click the VRT calculator. This will give you an idea of the cost of the VRT you'll have to pay; however, this is not hard and fast. It will also give you an idea of the OMSP. |
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Stevo
Really Senior Member I e30 318is Joined: 28-October-2002 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 278 |
Posted: 24-March-2005 at 18:01 |
Car is on the Limerick side of Buttevant about half a mile from the town . House on the left . It's an 89 2 door , zinnobar red with 17inch rims and tinted windows . Body is dentless but it does need a touch of Ferecla to bring the paint to life again . Small bit of rust at the drivers side A-pillar . Engine is not running and the chap reckons it's a head gasket job (?) It's got a sunroof and a set of MAX POwer seat covers . AC Schnitzer sticker on the window .
Dennis Sexton is the lads name , 0872442779 . |
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Dergside
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-May-2004 Location: Mid West, Ireland Status: Offline Points: 4000 |
Posted: 24-March-2005 at 11:18 |
Bopsy I'm guessing your total annual mieage is reasonably low??! I do 20-25k miles per year between 2 * 2.5 litre cars. So, for me, either way is just a different approach to proctology. |
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Bopsy
Senior Member II Joined: 23-February-2005 Location: Ratoath Status: Offline Points: 226 |
Posted: 24-March-2005 at 10:34 |
Forget VRT. Why isn't car tax based on the amount mileage you do as opposed to the size of your engine. You do 30,000 a year no matter what size engine you pay a rate of say 2% after all you are using the roads more 600 Quid You do 5,000 a year you pay 2% smaller amount, but you have not used the roads as much. 100 quid In other words you for what you use, seems very fair to me. |
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Bopsy!
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M2_Harry
Senior Member I Joined: 17-February-2005 Location: Kildare/West Sussex Status: Offline Points: 142 |
Posted: 24-March-2005 at 09:51 |
VRT is a misnomer if you ask me and should be named VVT - because it is after all a "vehicle value tax". Shouldn't VRT cost the same whether your vehicle is worth £3000 or £30000? It takes the same amount of time to register every vehicle so why should it cost more to do one than the other? Is is just me or is this illegal? Harry |
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ludo
Really Senior Member II Joined: 01-October-2004 Status: Offline Points: 879 |
Posted: 24-March-2005 at 09:45 |
Well that's being discuss as many EU member states feel like it's an illegal tax! Unfortunately as noone, apart from us can gain anything from it, I don't expect anything to happen soon! Edited by ludo |
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kbannon
Admin Group E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Posted: 24-March-2005 at 09:34 |
The revenue are fully entitled to charge the taxes they wish as there is no EU control over them
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M2_Harry
Senior Member I Joined: 17-February-2005 Location: Kildare/West Sussex Status: Offline Points: 142 |
Posted: 24-March-2005 at 07:54 |
How does the revenue commissioner get away with this? This must be illegal |
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1975 BMW 2002 Touring - M3 Evo Engine.
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Dergside
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-May-2004 Location: Mid West, Ireland Status: Offline Points: 4000 |
Posted: 24-March-2005 at 05:07 |
There is an appeals procedure if you think the figure is wrong. The are 2 lines of reasoning that I would consider using is: 1) if no direct comparison is available, value it similarly to the nearest model they have a value for, e.g. a 323i 2d saloon. 2) if none had been registered here then value must be linked to or similar to the UK price in a worst case scenario, since that is the only realistic source. Would a similar condition Baur cost stg£2800 in the UK (effectively thats the grossed up value they have put on the car). |
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JohnH
Really Senior Member II Joined: 18-June-2004 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1315 |
Posted: 23-March-2005 at 19:04 |
I suppose there was no chance they would just have thought it was a dodgy vinyl roof, eh??? |
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jrafferty
Really Senior Member I Joined: 22-February-2005 Location: dublin/northside Status: Offline Points: 341 |
Posted: 23-March-2005 at 15:56 |
i sold the 1984 323i to my sister so my impulse buy didnt get me in too much trouble with the missus
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jrafferty
Really Senior Member I Joined: 22-February-2005 Location: dublin/northside Status: Offline Points: 341 |
Posted: 23-March-2005 at 15:54 |
i argued the point of price with the V.R.T. office in santry and asked how they came up with that price.there was no disputing with them . they said "you pay the v.r.t within a week or get the car out of the country".i was held to ransom.Apparently they had no record of a 323i tc baur ever being registered in this country so they had to go and research the price.(if anyone can tell me different im all ears). inanyway, i didnt learn me lesson i brought a 1984 323i baur over one month later and went through the same process.
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pma1ums
Really Senior Member II Joined: 12-October-2004 Location: central uk Status: Offline Points: 1148 |
Posted: 23-March-2005 at 15:53 |
blimey ....and i thought i just lived in rip off uk ...you guys get so so so stung its unbeliveble....not fair at all ..... when i vist your great place [have the odd bit of family over cork way] i love it ..but allways wondered why i saw basic cars with massses of road tax on ..i looked at a nice 530 d while i was smoking outside of a bar ..i nearly fell over at the charge for the years road fund ......and i had only one pint apart from that i love the place and the gardia sometimes[dont ask why lol]...i now understand why my freinds over there drive 1 litres cars ... |
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its a dogs world out there
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kbannon
Admin Group E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Posted: 23-March-2005 at 15:44 |
< 1.4L then VRT is 22.5% of OMSP (Open Market Selling Price) 1.4 - 1.9 = 25% >1.9 = 30% Naturally our revenue commissioners decide what the OMSP is! Assume a new car has a retail price of 10k, then add the appropriate VRT rate and then add 21% VAT on all of that. This is why many older cars here were of standard spec - adding options increased the retail price therefore incurring more VRT & VAT. |
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pma1ums
Really Senior Member II Joined: 12-October-2004 Location: central uk Status: Offline Points: 1148 |
Posted: 23-March-2005 at 15:25 |
just a small question ..but how much are you guys stung for VRT??? it seems daft amount of euros are added on something witch is so cheap over here ... |
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its a dogs world out there
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Eamo
Moderator Group Joined: 13-May-2003 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 3450 |
Posted: 23-March-2005 at 14:36 |
@stevo
are you gonna buy? if not can i have the details? |
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kbannon
Admin Group E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Posted: 23-March-2005 at 14:27 |
I was reading on boards.ie about a guy who was told by the revenue that VRT had to be paid on an off-road bike - seemingly they were quite insistent!
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jrafferty
Really Senior Member I Joined: 22-February-2005 Location: dublin/northside Status: Offline Points: 341 |
Posted: 23-March-2005 at 14:08 |
if anyone is intereted in that baur just be warned,i brought over a 1985 323i baur just before x-mas and was hit with a €1200 V.R.T bill. i was expecting about €500 v.r.t. but what can you do but to pay it. |
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