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bmw1066 
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GOOD OLD E23
Joined: 16-January-2005
Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton
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 Topic: may be dead e23 help
Posted: 03-April-2005 at 16:56 |
OK I am very upset  so no nasty coments or I tould you so's even if I need them.
I think my gear box is given up now sooner than I thought it would, I got harth way down a23 m23 and had to tern back I
know it is not werth doing but being mk1 shark and looks so diffrent
from other e23s and I get very atachet to my cars, the other well what
you all are thinking { Hiabboy}
I would like to put another gear box in, 3 sp or 4 sp con,so if you
know off gear box going cheep plese help. or a cheep e23 with all the
kit but clean.
Philip were you on the A21 going towords Tumbrige today I was driving
the other way in blue Land Rover Disco. Looks very nice and Rob your
bargin looks supper you and philip should be very proud off them and
good work to you keep on
Edited by bmw1066
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
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Von Paulus
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Cruisin the Reeperbahn
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Posted: 03-April-2005 at 17:16 |
Hang on a minute - both 'Phillip' and 'Hiabboy' have
got good clean E23's for sale for £400 or less. I think
that's the obvious answer, a ready to drive car for a
few quid. Don't get too sentimental.......
As far as I was aware, the 3 speed autos like I had in
my 733i were better than the 4 speed for reliability.
Trouble is though, they are all now so old you may
struggle to find another one. I'm probably wrong but
didn't E23's go to the 4 speed autobox in '82 with the
facelift grille?
But I know what you mean - Henna red Sharknose
E23's do look quite special
All it needs is a 5 speed dogleg manual! 
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bmw1066
Really Senior Member II
GOOD OLD E23
Joined: 16-January-2005
Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton
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Posted: 03-April-2005 at 17:28 |
Good points, some hard thinking tonight, I fear you are right on the
hard to fined 3 sp box, on the last mk1 sharks it was an opshion for
the 4 sp box I think. Mine is one off the very last mk1 e23s first reg
in Aug 82
All it needs is a 5 speed dogleg manual! yes plese
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
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M3AG
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7 series & e36 m3 registrar! (Madness)
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Posted: 03-April-2005 at 17:59 |
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How hard would it be to convert it to manual? Apart from the obvious need for the pedal box/gearbox and internal trim, would it need a different ECU?
Mark, shame it's gone, can the likes of Fritz's bits help at all?
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Horsetan
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Posted: 03-April-2005 at 18:02 |
 M3AG wrote:
How hard would it be to convert it to manual? Apart from the obvious need for the pedal box/gearbox and internal trim, would it need a different ECU?
Mark, shame it's gone, can the likes of Fritz's bits help at all? |
It would probably need a different driveshaft as well....
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M3AG
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Posted: 03-April-2005 at 18:05 |
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So quite a conversion! Mark, it would probably cost you £350/400 to get it all sorted, how about Hiabboy's 735. Sounds a really nice car!
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Philip
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E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
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Posted: 04-April-2005 at 04:48 |
bmw1066 wrote:
Philip were you on the A21 going towords Tumbrige today I was driving the other way in blue Land Rover Disco. Looks very nice and Rob your bargin looks supper you and philip should be very proud off them and good work to you keep on
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Hi Mark. VJ was indeed bombing down the Tonbridge bypass on sunday. did you see the bootlid bouncing up & down? the push button is a bit sticky & sometimes doesn't engage the lock. some geeza told me about it in Halfords carpark, Newhaven later that morning. I need industrial quantities of Driveway Oil Stain Remover as I have a fleet of vintage M30 motors all dripping away in unison.
So sorry to hear about the Red Baron. Think hard before committing ££££ to repairs.
The geeza who bid on my 732i has gone to ground, sensible chap. so if you want a ready to go E23 for the summer while you search for a g/box for the Baron let me know. one of us will buy it back off you when you've sorted the Baron.
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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M3AG
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Posted: 04-April-2005 at 04:52 |
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DON'T SCRAP THE RED ONE MARK!
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robs e23
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Posted: 04-April-2005 at 06:48 |
mark philips car he had for sale is brill, exellent car.i saw this yesterday. might be a thought to take philip up on the offer, as he said it would be bought back by one of us. that then gives you time to sorce a gearbox plus anything else you decide to do to it. also gives you time to get money together etc. 
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Philip
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E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
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Posted: 04-April-2005 at 07:27 |
Thanks Rob. my 732i is nowhere near as good as the Bahama Babe, but Rob reckons it can easily be improved without spending too much £££££.
It would be nice to keep my 732i in the family. one of us is sure to need an e23 runabout at some stage.
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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Hiabboy
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Posted: 04-April-2005 at 08:04 |
Mark since you drive a discovery and an e23 ,i'm sure you appreciate how important it is to have a car with a nice interior (for them long winter nights on the hard shoulder waiting for the AA!) . For this reason forget all them miser model 732Is with their poverty spec velour trim, what you need is my sapphire blue 735i SE with wipe down buffalo leather (handy for them ATF spills !) You could cruise (or park) in luxury until a box turns up for your turd.
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Profit is more reasonable than justice.
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eta.
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Posted: 04-April-2005 at 12:23 |
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Mark, is your box a 4 spd? Have you tried a flush and fluid change? These boxes normally do not just fail, get a bit jerky etc. How many miles has the car done? Any histiory of the box or clutch pack being replaced?
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bmw1066
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GOOD OLD E23
Joined: 16-January-2005
Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton
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Posted: 04-April-2005 at 13:54 |
3 spd box, gear changes are very smoth still but no pull and high pichet noise at the same time  still drivable around small back rds but for how long, Thanks for your kind offer Philip I will have a think.
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
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M3AG
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Posted: 04-April-2005 at 15:22 |
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Patrick has a point there Mark, try having the fluids/filters etc changed/serviced, may give you some time.
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Philip
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E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
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Posted: 04-April-2005 at 17:59 |
bmw1066 wrote:
3 spd box, gear changes are very smoth still but no pull and high pichet noise at the same time still drivable around small back rds but for how long, Thanks for your kind offer Philip I will have a think. |
Let me know as soon as you can Mark. If you want the 732i I will cancel the sale to the ebay chap. I will be gutted if the car goes to someone who doesn't look after it
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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bmw1066
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GOOD OLD E23
Joined: 16-January-2005
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Posted: 04-April-2005 at 18:31 |
no not yet give it a go what i got to lose, always hapends at 3100 rpm
in every gear can get no more out I think it is toquk converter,
Hiabboy the Land Rover is my dads 3.9 v8 and touch wood has never let us
down and is very good drive 1995 year, Philip thanks again  but I, like you have not got the space
going to tack the car down to Brighton gear boxes to see what thay
think, so sell to the ebayer I to would also be guted if they dont look
arfter it even thou its not my car tell em there will be a herd of e23
nutters arfter them if not tack it you herd from them. point them onto the form.
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad
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Philip
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E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
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Posted: 05-April-2005 at 10:05 |
OK Mark, let us know what the Brighton Auto Box people say.
I have a ZF torque converter which looks like a pumpkin, sitting around. its yours if you want it.
I have been approached by a new buyer for the 732i, so all is not lost.
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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bmw1066
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GOOD OLD E23
Joined: 16-January-2005
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Posted: 05-April-2005 at 13:25 |
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Thanks, will fined out soon
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad
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simon735i
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Posted: 05-April-2005 at 14:56 |
eta. wrote:
Mark, is your box a 4 spd? Have you tried a flush and fluid change? These boxes normally do not just fail, get a bit jerky etc. How many miles has the car done? Any histiory of the box or clutch pack being replaced? |
I had a auto honda legend, some time ago.it was whirring,snatchy+ nasty.Changed the fluid+ had a gearbox specialist'tinker' with external parts+ all was well for £50
Hope yours is similarly easy
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Philip
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E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
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Posted: 05-April-2005 at 15:09 |
Simon, how is your car getting on?
you seem to have vanished from the board recently
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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may be dead e23 help
