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M1 - it is part Lambo anyway.. well in conception but thankfully not build. Good ol Baur.

Nice one.. I believe the earlier LP400S is the better drive although you really want the QV anniversary with the carbon bodywork if you're going to go the whole hog.

Almost bought a black targa Jalpa 3500 just before I got 8LUR. Always fancied an Espada for trans-continental.. it's supposed to be very good at big speeds with plenty of cabin space.

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I'd be more happy to pay Lamo costs for a Lambo than a BMW..

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A friend of a friend had to sell his Diablo because it was going to cost £30k for its service.

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I used to toy with the idea of a Countach replica but I don't have the necessary expertise to build one myself.  I'm told the kits are not for the feint hearted but a professionally built one can be had for less than £20k with Rover V8 power.

I've not kept up with the kit car industry in the last few years but I'm surprised no-one has done an M1 replica...?  Should be simple enough and could use many original parts.



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In no particular order

Camaro SS350 (with big blower sticking through the hood)

Current M5

E30 M3 Evo 2

Merc C55 AMG

Merc Cosworth Evo 2

New Range Rover Sport

RS500 Cossie

AM V8

That'll do for starters !



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-May-2005 at 08:07

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M1

507

3.0 CSL

ditto Batmobile

E28 M5

Lesser manufacturers:-

Woolf Barnato Bentley Speed Six "Blue Train" Special by Gurney Nutting

MGC GTS (Sebring)

XKSS

Bugatti Type 57 Atalante Coupe

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-May-2005 at 08:19
Originally posted by Chas C Chas C wrote:

I used to toy with the idea of a Countach replica but I don't have the necessary expertise to build one myself.  I'm told the kits are not for the feint hearted but a professionally built one can be had for less than £20k with Rover V8 power.

I've not kept up with the kit car industry in the last few years but I'm surprised no-one has done an M1 replica...?  Should be simple enough and could use many original parts.

But you buy a Countach for its' V12 surely..

M1 replica - Let's hope they never do.. be honest you buy it almost as much for it's handling (if not more) than its looks. I like original kit cars such as the Ultima and only replicas of cars that are os unobtainable such as Cobras, Lolas and McLaren M6s etc.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-May-2005 at 08:21
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Bugatti Type 57 Atalante Coupe

Why? Probably the most hyped car ever.. its' price fuelled by speculators not enthusiasts..

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Merc Cosworth Evo 2

Yes.. awesome machines.

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Originally posted by M BLUR M BLUR wrote:

Originally posted by m3Cecotto m3Cecotto wrote:

Bugatti Type 57 Atalante Coupe

Why? Probably the most hyped car ever.. its' price fuelled by speculators not enthusiasts..

Why? Beautful to look at, beautifully engineered automotive art.  Just like a Countach...................not!

Can't be ****d with this inverted snobbery bull**** about "I'm a true enthusiast, people with bigger wads than me are just speculators."  Sad.  Get out more Jon.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-May-2005 at 08:48
Originally posted by m3Cecotto m3Cecotto wrote:

Originally posted by M BLUR M BLUR wrote:

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Bugatti Type 57 Atalante Coupe

Why? Beautful to look at, beautifully engineered automotive art.  Just like a Countach...................not! Can't be ****d with this inverted snobbery bull**** about "I'm a true enthusiast, people with bigger wads than me are just speculators."  Sad.  Get out more Jon.

Woooooooooo... At least you make up the 2% who loves the car for what it is not the 98% who have been told my media propganda it's the most beatiful car.. Personally I doubt we'd be having this chat if it weren't for the silly 90's where a group of collectors decided it was the rarest and most expensive car in the world. 

So no inverted snoobery intended - just it was never revered nearly as much at the time it was built.. it's an excess, pretty but not the best example of its era. More of a Maybach of its day (I see the irony in that statement).  Now if you want a true Bugatti.. Type 35 m8. or a beatiful Italian sports car.. then Maser A6CGS perhaps.

However from one anorak to another I applaud you for choosing pre-war cars that are often forgotten by others.. the Bentley was an inspired choice as I grovel from outside.

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While we're talking about Bugattis - I'd like to add in the EB110 SS for measure.

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great the chat as got back on to cars!!!!!!
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Originally posted by M8LUR M8LUR wrote:

Woooooooooo... At least you make up the 2% who loves the car for what it is not the 98% who have been told my media propganda it's the most beatiful car.. Personally I doubt we'd be having this chat if it weren't for the silly 90's where a group of collectors decided it was the rarest and most expensive car in the world. 

So no inverted snoobery intended - just it was never revered nearly as much at the time it was built.. it's an excess, pretty but not the best example of its era. More of a Maybach of its day (I see the irony in that statement).  Now if you want a true Bugatti.. Type 35 m8. or a beatiful Italian sports car.. then Maser A6CGS perhaps.

However from one anorak to another I applaud you for choosing pre-war cars that are often forgotten by others.. the Bentley was an inspired choice as I grovel from outside.

Can I come in from the cold yet..?

No, not yet.

The 57 is far from rare and is probably one of the most common Bugattis, and though the Atalante coupe is pretty rare, it's nowhere near as rare and expensive as "...rarest and most expensive car in the world." which in Bugatti terms is probably the Jean Bugatti designed  Royale coup de Napoleon.  The 57 iscertainly not an excess.  It's just a wee two seater coupe and M8LUR is probably more of an excess.  Your descriptions lead me to think that perhaps you are confusing the Maybachesque excess of the  Royale (type 41) with the type 57?

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Type 57 Atalante:-

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No Italian cars on my list but if I were forced to choose one it'd be either an Alfa Romeo 8C2300 or a 250 GTO Breadvan



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Originally posted by M BLUR M BLUR wrote:

But you buy a Countach for its' V12 surely..

M1 replica - Let's hope they never do.. be honest you buy it almost as much for it's handling (if not more) than its looks.

I would buy a Countach, an M1, or a DB7 primarily for its beauty.  I'm not interested in being seen in one - few people pay heed to person in the driving seat anyway - but I do appreciate the designers art in these machines.

As far as driving excitement, there's little opportunity to drive cars like these at anywhere near their limit on public roads.  A replica could offer 95% of the driving experience for 95% of the time, and for 95% of us, that's as close as we may ever get  

Cars are essentially asthetic pieces of equipment. No matter how 'good' the new M5 may be dynamically, I'd rather have an E31

Incidentally, how can you approve of pre war cars (which would handle like a bucket of brown stuff) and sneer at replica kits, most of which are well sorted in that department.



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Yes indeed m8.. I was thinking of the Napoleon.. oops.

Type 57.. yes lovely car. My dad used to have a model of one he made many many years ago.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-May-2005 at 17:14
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....There are two RHD M1s in existence so we don't have to fight about them.  However, as soon as one of them comes up for sale in the uk, I'll be buying it...



This assumes Munich Leg Ends don't get their mitts on it first. Once they do, they'll put a fantastically-high price on it, then refuse to sell it anyway. That's precisely what they've done with the "normal" M1 they've already got....

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Sorry, misread that. Initially thought you wrote "3 figure speeds in a Micra"....

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This assumes Munich Leg Ends don't get their mitts on it first. Once they do, they'll put a fantastically-high price on it, then refuse to sell it anyway. That's precisely what they've done with the "normal" M1 they've already got....

Have they still got that one..?  I'd heard they had taken one in a few years back with only 8k miles on it but didn't realise it was still there.  Methinks I'll have to pay them a visit and make an offer they can't refuse.

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Originally posted by Chas C Chas C wrote:

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This assumes Munich Leg Ends don't get their mitts on it first. Once they do, they'll put a fantastically-high price on it, then refuse to sell it anyway. That's precisely what they've done with the "normal" M1 they've already got....


Have they still got that one..?  I'd heard they had taken one in a few years back with only 8k miles on it but didn't realise it was still there.  Methinks I'll have to pay them a visit and make an offer they can't refuse.



The last time they "offered" it for sale, it was £45k...

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