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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2005 at 16:22

Eta.  Your son is also correct

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2005 at 16:23

Originally posted by Houlbt Houlbt wrote:

re: the coins....

label the bags A B C D E...

take 1 coin from A, 2 from B, 3 from C, 4 from D, 5 from E.

Take these coins and weigh them...

if total weight is...

150.. then you've done something wrong.
149... then A is the light coins
148... then it's B
147... then it must be C
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The car wheel one... not sure how to explain that though I get the concept (I think)

Is the correct Answer.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2005 at 17:02
Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

No idea?

How about:

A man lives in a tower block on the 10th floor. In the morning he gets in the lift and travels all the way down to go to work. When he returns in the evening he gets into the lift and if he is alone he gets off at the fifth floor and walks up the stairs to the tenth floor. However if there is someone in the lift with him he travels to the tenth floor. Why?

be cause he is to short to reach the 10th floor button

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2005 at 17:07
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-May-2005 at 03:48

Originally posted by J7 VNK J7 VNK wrote:

There's no rolling resistance on the wheel/road,  but there will be wind resistance!!  therefore the car is slowed by wind resistance and the wheel goes faster!

No that's not it. For the purpose of this there is no wind resistance.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-May-2005 at 04:52

Ok, so if it's not a trick question or has a silly answer it must be pure physics?

Can't be bothered to awaken the moths and try and remember things, or come up with a convincing equation! but it's to do with the inertial forces and the mass acting upon the wheel from the car. when the wheel comes of there's less force acting down on the wheel, and thus less friction between the wheel and the road, the force acting from the hub cancelling the rotational force on the wheel at a certain point (at the bottom of the wheel!  at all other points the wheel has a mass rotational force) when the wheel is left to freely rotate (comes of) the mass force is transferred to the wheel and less to the road resulting in a translation to horizontal movement from an accelerated rotation about it's axis. basically the wheel travels in the direction of strongest inertia tangentially!

I might look for an equation later!  but as f=ma you reduce the opposing force which is caused by friction on the mass of the car, thsu increasing the force applied to the wheel itself, so:

increased f = m(constant for the wheel) x increased a


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-May-2005 at 07:18

Thinking about it I was passenger on a "Queen Mary" transporter loaded with scrap tyres once, on a winding A road, one of the tyres slipped it's lashings, fell over the side, overtook us and hit a car coming the other way square on the bonnet.

Don't know the math but it was interesting to watch!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-May-2005 at 03:29
Originally posted by G0ph3r G0ph3r wrote:

<FONT face=Arial>Ok People here's another Brian Teaser for you:


<FONT face=Arial>You are given 5 bags. There are 10 Coins in each of the bags. In four of the bags, the Coins each weigh 10 grams.  In the remaining bag,  each Coin weighs only 9 grams. All the bags and Coins look identical. You must  find out which bag has the lighter Coins.


<FONT face=Arial>The problem is that all the bags look identical and all the Coins look identical. You can use a scale, but it has to be a single-tray scale, not a two-tray balance scale.  Also, you may use the scale only once.


<FONT face=Arial>How can you find out which bag has the lighter Coins?


<FONT face=Arial>Puzzlers............Begin



Son came up with this answer, is he correct again (he gets this from his Mum!)

1 coin from bag 1
2 coins from bag 2
3 coins from bag 3
4 coins from bag 4
5 coins from bag 5

If the scale reads 149g then the coins in bag 1 weigh 9 grams
If scale = 148g then bag 2 is the light bag
If scale = 147g then bag 3 is the light bag
If scale = 146g then bag 4 is the light bag
If scale = 145g then bag 5 is the light bag

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-May-2005 at 12:53
Originally posted by J7 VNK J7 VNK wrote:

Ok, so if it's not a trick question or has a silly answer it must be pure physics?

Can't be bothered to awaken the moths and try and remember things, or come up with a convincing equation! but it's to do with the inertial forces and the mass acting upon the wheel from the car. when the wheel comes of there's less force acting down on the wheel, and thus less friction between the wheel and the road, the force acting from the hub cancelling the rotational force on the wheel at a certain point (at the bottom of the wheel!  at all other points the wheel has a mass rotational force) when the wheel is left to freely rotate (comes of) the mass force is transferred to the wheel and less to the road resulting in a translation to horizontal movement from an accelerated rotation about it's axis. basically the wheel travels in the direction of strongest inertia tangentially!

I might look for an equation later!  but as f=ma you reduce the opposing force which is caused by friction on the mass of the car, thsu increasing the force applied to the wheel itself, so:

increased f = m(constant for the wheel) x increased a

You're over thinking it. It's no where near as complicated as all that.

 

Do you give up yet?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-May-2005 at 05:54

right!!  I decided to think simply then!!

the wheel comes off, there's no rolling resitance, BUT if my wheel come off i'd bleeding stop!!  the wheel would therefore carry on going!!

if that's wrong I then give up


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-May-2005 at 17:32

No still not it.

Ok, I'll put you out of your misery. When the wheel is on the car the weight it is supporting distorts the shape of the tyre so that it is not round i.e the contact patch of the tyre is flattened against the road. This effectively reduces the circumference of the wheel. When the wheel comes off the car it is no longer supporting the weight of the car and so is no longer distorted so it's circumference is not reduced. Assuming zero resistance, the wheel remains rotating at the same rpm as it was when attatched to the car but since it has a greater circumference it will travel further for each rotation.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-May-2005 at 17:45
Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

No still not it.


Ok, I'll put you out of your misery. When the wheel is on the car the weight it is supporting distorts the shape of the tyre so that it is not round i.e the contact patch of the tyre is flattened against the road. This effectively reduces the circumference of the wheel. When the wheel comes off the car it is no longer supporting the weight of the car and so is no longer distorted so it's circumference is not reduced. Assuming zero resistance, the wheel remains rotating at the same rpm as it was when attatched to the car but since it has a greater circumference it will travel further for each rotation.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-May-2005 at 18:26

A lift is on the ground floor. There are 4 people in the lift including me.
When the lift reaches 1st floor, 1 person gets out 3 people get in.
The lift goes up to the second floor, 2 people get out 6 people get in.
It then goes up to the next floor up, no-one gets out but 12 people get in. Halfway up to the next floor up the lift cable snaps, it crashes to the floor. Everyone dies in the lift. How did I survive?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-May-2005 at 19:08
Originally posted by pete323 pete323 wrote:

A lift is on the ground floor. There are 4 people in the lift including me. When the lift reaches 1st floor, 1 person gets out 3 people get in.The lift goes up to the second floor, 2 people get out 6 people get in. It then goes up to the next floor up, no-one gets out but 12 people get in. Halfway up to the next floor up the lift cable snaps, it crashes to the floor. Everyone dies in the lift. How did I survive?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-May-2005 at 01:51
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-May-2005 at 03:37

Originally posted by Rhys Rhys wrote:


You made that one up, right?

Nope, straight out of an engineering magazine Big Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-May-2005 at 06:26

Originally posted by Derek M5 Derek M5 wrote:

Or the second floor!

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-May-2005 at 12:04

Where do you think you're going with that thing?" asked the bus driver to the young boy.

"Where do you think I'm going? On this bus, of course. Why, can't I?" replied the boy.

"No, of course you can't," said the bus driver in a very annoying way. "It is forbidden to bring any object of length, width, or height greater than one meter on any bus. That thing you're carrying is longer than one meter."

"Fair enough," sighed the young boy. "It's about one meter and twenty centimeters long. But I can pay a ticket for it too."

"It's got nothing to do with a ticket," screeched the driver. "You could buy a dozen tickets, and I still would not let you ride on this bus!"

Frustration grew rapidly within the young lad. "Listen! I need to take this baseball bat to a game I am playing in. I don't drive a car. The cabbies are on strike. And it's raining. What do you expect me to do!"

I don't know, and I don't care anyway. You ain't gonna come on this bus with that bat. End of story."

Quickly, the young boy dashed into a shop next to the bus stop and came out with a package containing the bat. Smugly, with all thirty-two teeth on display, he showed the package to the bus driver. "Now can I come on the bus?"

With a snort, the bus driver pulled out a folding rule and performed a precise measurement. Scowling, he waved in the smug young lad.

How did the boy manage to pack a 1.2 meter baseball bat into a package less than one meter?

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