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    Posted: 23-September-2005 at 15:51
Im pretty new to the whole BMW scene, so go easy fellas !
 
Im looking at getting a 540i 88-96 model, not sure of the E number!
 
I'm looking to chip it and change the exhaust, so if you have any recommendations, id like to hear them !
 
Im looking for all out performance, and have toyed with the idea of the 535i, but would rather go all out and get the 540.
 
Are there any common problems with these engines ?  Do the gear boxes have many problems !
 
Once again, if you can be of any help, that would be great !
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-September-2005 at 17:12
Welcome zeeny999999 to the forum

The E number for this model of BM is an E34.

Can't really help you with much else as I too am looking to get a 535i (just sold me 525)

And would like some more info on the V8 engines.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-September-2005 at 17:54

The 540's were only made between 93 and 96, most were autos.

The engine has an issue with a coating on the bores called Nikasil. Bore wear caused by using fuel with a high sulphur content, and lots of short journeys can contribute.

There is plenty of info regarding Nikasil in M60 V8 engines on this forum and the net.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-September-2005 at 18:02

If you want all out perfromance you could always go for an E34 M5. As Andy says most of the 540's were autos which IMO doesn't lend itself to being sporty although i'm sure others will disagree. There were a few 540 sports with a manual box but they are like rocking horse S**t.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-September-2005 at 19:16
But you can't buy an M5 for £1500.

540i's are okay as long as they're cheap because
like all old cars, they go wrong and the V8's can
generate some big, big bills. The engine issue is
one thing but the other is the autobox. E34 540i's are
now heading towards banger territory but the running
costs are anything but banger money.

The 535i manual is probably a better bet.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 02:12

well,mine has a k+n panel filter,the end of the airbox chopped off and a superchip.all this raised the power to 310hp from 286hp.mine has nitrous on top which adds another 100hp but thats usually reserved for the drag strip.

  as standard they come with an "open" diff which is extremely long legged and not much kop for sprinting,more for cruising(if it could reach it fifth gear is geared for 195mph! and they hit the speed limiter in fourth!) the way round this is to fit the diff from an m5.i have had a look on the oem parts website and the driveshafts are the same so there shouldn't be any probs fitting one.the 3.6's and five speed 3.8 m5's come with a 3.93:1 diff which would be excellent for acceleration  but the top speed would be down to 140ish in fifth.the six speed m5's had a 3.23:1 diff which would give you 170ish top end if deristricted.the other benifit of the m5 diff is it is a limited slip diff.this is the one i am going to try and find over the winter.

  they are never going to be quick off the line being an auto.i think standard 0-60 is 7seconds.but they will match a standard cossie or scooby up the drag strip(14.8 seconds for the 1/4)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 05:04
Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

If you want all out perfromance you could always go for an E34 M5. As Andy says most of the 540's were autos which IMO doesn't lend itself to being sporty although i'm sure others will disagree. There were a few 540 sports with a manual box but they are like rocking horse S**t.

 

E34 540i sports were only ever made for the USA 200 in total 65 being auto`s 135 being 6 speed manuals, they were a limited production series created by BMW M GmbH all were left hand drive.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 05:32
Thanks guys for the input, so what do you reckon would be quicker to 60 then a 540i Auto or a 535i ???  Im just wondering what to do now !
 
I think they make the 535 as a V8 and V6 or am I getting mixed up, and which one is best !
 
I read that the 540i when new does 0-60 in a fraction under 7 secs, just wondering what the figures are for the 535i !
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 05:39

i personally love the 535i, the m30 is a sweeeeeet engine and bullit proof.

dangerous100, did you have the car mapped for the nitrous when running a 100 shot ?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 05:58
The m30 3.5 is a in line 6 not a v6 and its a great engine, not as powerfull as the 4.0v8 but not that far behind it either, and if your willing to spend the money the m30 can really be made to perform and as jayson has said its almost bullit proof, whereas the e34/v8`s do have there problems with both the engine and the auto boxs and both will cost you dearly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 06:47

Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

As Andy says most of the 540's were autos which IMO doesn't lend itself to being sporty although i'm sure others will disagree.

Yup.

I disagree

A big enough engine powering a car thru an autobox will still be quick.  You will still be able to eat and spit out everything bar an M5.

200+ bhp is more than adequate for being sporty IMO.  You have 286bhp and I can assure you that will be plenty even though it is thru an autobox.

My Vauxhall Senator 3.0i 24V was 204bhp and automatic and it would leave my E39 for dead. On the Sennie forum we used to boast about how many BMWs we would leave at the lights as I'm sure Tetleysmooth will agree!

Sennie 0-60 8.2 secs, my E39 0-60 9.7 secs.  Woeful in comparison innit!

1.5 seconds of a difference from another 500 cc and 34 bhp, can make all the difference.  My E39 is adequate for what I want it to do, not brilliant but o.k. the Sennie was definitely quicker.  I do less overtaking in the E39 than I did in the Sennie purely for the reason that it is slower.  But it is a better car.

A manual 523i will do 0-60 in 8.something seconds, the auto is much slower in comparison but that is only with 170 horses to play with, you have over 100 more, that's like a Ford Focus engine plus my 6 pot from my E39.

4 litres worth, 286 bhp and the sexy V8 noise would beat a 6 pot 3.5 litre IMO any day.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 06:53

"4 litres worth, 286 bhp and the sexy V8 noise would beat a 6 pot 3.5 litre IMO any day."

Andrew have you driven both the 3.5 and the 4.0?

"A manual 523i will do 0-60 in 8.something seconds, the auto is much slower in comparison but that is only with 170 horses to play with, you have over 100 more, that's like a Ford Focus engine plus my 6 pot from my E39".

It really does not work like that.

A auto box will never be/feel as sporty as a manual not ever, and a manual 535 is a bloody quick car where as a auto is more leisurely power.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 07:18

chippeduk- no the car was not mapped for the 100shot.its just a standard superchip,the gas was added later.it is on a progressive controller though.i have only stopped at a 100 shot because the fuel pump cant deliver anymore fuel.next step is a bigger fuel pump and a 150shot.for the record that will be circa 460hp on gas.

    i would like the supercharger conversion and gas which should give nearly 600hp on gas,but unless one pops up on ebay its a bit out of my price range.

 zeeny-i think the manual 535i does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds.so the 540i is still half a second quicker to sixty.after that the gap just gets wider and wider.0-100 for the 540i is about 15 seconds(hampererd by long gearing,it nearly does it in third!)mine can do it in 14.5 seconds off gas and 12.5 seconds on gas.thats speedo readings.

   the straight six(535)does sound better out of the box but a few choice mods can have the v8 singing.

  these cars are both big heavy lumps(mine weighs 1740kgs with me in it and has manual seats and no aircon so is probably as light as its gonna get)so a well driven hot hatch is gonna be all over you from the lights,its higher up where they shine through.first gear is also quite long which makes it seem worse,and fourth is also a pain in the ****.

   they do 40mph in first,70 in second,100 in third,155 in fourth(see the big gap) and fifth is irrelevent other than cruising.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 07:28

how do you knock the timing back at full pelt then ?

you would be wise to have this retarded 4degree.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 07:45

 

Hello Dangerious

one day soon, could you put together a thread about your mods

fitting tips, cost etc, your car and the way you want to use it sound very interesting.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 12:23

i drive an e34 535i auto sport and in my opinion you can't go wrong with an m30.its done 161k and still goes like stink.

i was looking for a manual but this very nice 1990 auto came up and i couldn't resist! every time i drive it i have a smile on my face,the kickdown is ferocious and the noise is great.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 12:57
quote "i drive an e34 535i auto sport and in my opinion you can't go wrong with an m30.its done 161k and still goes like stink."

Sorry I should really PM you, but how much did you pick this up for?

It's just that now I've sold the 525 I was looking for a 535 or bigger with about your mileage on, wether that or I've seen a G reg 730 with 65k on the clock for 1k.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 13:06

I think Peter has stated the manual auto debate again!!!!

All good stuff.

Originally posted by b8alk b8alk wrote:

"4 litres worth, 286 bhp and the sexy V8 noise would beat a 6 pot 3.5 litre IMO any day."

A six pot is still a six pot if it is 2.5 or 3.5 litres.  Yes one will have more power but they still work the same.  A V8 is a completely different engine and that is what I would want.  I have owned two 6 pot cars and if I had a chance of owning a V8 over another 6 pot, the V8 would win.

Originally posted by b8alk b8alk wrote:

Andrew have you driven both the 3.5 and the 4.0?

No I haven't driven either of those.  I presume you have driven a 540i then? You had one of those lovely big Hartge (excuse the spelling if that is wrong) 535i E34.  Nice car......

Originally posted by b8alk b8alk wrote:

"A manual 523i will do 0-60 in 8.something seconds, the auto is much slower in comparison but that is only with 170 horses to play with, you have over 100 more, that's like a Ford Focus engine plus my 6 pot from my E39".

It really does not work like that.

What doesn't work like that?

The fact that you take a 170 bhp and you add 100+ bhp more from an ordinary family car you get around the bhp of a 4.0 litre BMW engine? 170 +100 and a bit = 270 and a bit.

I have driven a 1.6 Focus company pool car which has around 100 horses and if feels adequate for what it is.  I then get in my 170 bhp E39 and it feels so much quicker.  Add the two together and you will have, IMO, something that will really fly!

Originally posted by b8alk b8alk wrote:

a auto is more leisurely power.

They can still shift once you knock them into sports mode.  Slight delay, granted but it'll still beat them ordinary cars.

The point I was making was that if you have more than 200 bhp you will have a quick car regardless if it is manual or auto. 

Those ordinary Fords and Vauxhalls on the roads will have what say 130 bhp on average. 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 13:38
Originally posted by b8alk b8alk wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

If you want all out perfromance you could always go for an E34 M5. As Andy says most of the 540's were autos which IMO doesn't lend itself to being sporty although i'm sure others will disagree. There were a few 540 sports with a manual box but they are like rocking horse S**t.

 

E34 540i sports were only ever made for the USA 200 in total 65 being auto`s 135 being 6 speed manuals, they were a limited production series created by BMW M GmbH all were left hand drive.

Oh, well I've actually seen a RHD 540 manual with a 6 speed box.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-September-2005 at 13:54
Yes but it will not be a sport ie V5
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