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    Posted: 04-January-2006 at 05:37
Time has come to get myself sorted with some property so I'm seriously thinking of selling the car and getting somethin thats not worth as much.
I'm thinking of a 1995/96 M3.
Anyone seen any nice examples around outside autotrader,cbg and carzone? I want a real minter so will probably go to the UK.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 05:43
You're not going to get back the full value of your car unless you sell to an enthusiast - and the difference between what you sell for, and what you get your new M3 for will be minimal.

I said it to you before as well, but the E36 is a definate step down from the E46 in terms of comfort & build quality, no matter what lies under the bonnet I wouldn't get back in one...

Why not just hold on to yours for a year or two and do some big time saving...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 05:44
Oh yeah - insurance and tax as well... M3 isn't what I'd be buying if I want to save cash!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 05:58

Have to agree with Ken on the saving part - general running costs on an M3 are bound to be much higher than on the 323 (it looks soooo wrong when you type it like that, doesn't it!!!)

Have you spoken to a mortgage advisor/bank about your options?  I would start there before I looked at selling assets.  Plus, you won't get back all that you've put into the car, so you'll probably be starting at a loss.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 06:08
If you're not paying back a car loan, it won't have an adverse affect on any mortgage application. And given the amount of banks offering 100% mortgages you don't even need your deposit.

After about 2 years, your 100% mortgage is only a 95% one in real terms as your property has appreciated. My missus does conveyancing and her mortgage broker sorted us out... told me how to 'hide' my twenty grand car loan too. She'll do your legal fees cheap too if you want!

If you are determined to flog the car, get something cheap to run for the year or two - that green 318is that Al has springs to mind, then buy yourself a newer M3 in a few years. That said, even if you got 10K profit from your own, it wouldn't make a huge impact on house repayments. Am holding onto my own car now for a year or so, thinking about a 645ci once I'm over the worst part of my buying a house ordeal!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 06:09

Richie - don't make any rash decisions ok!  Not after all your good work on your E46!

I am in the same boat in that I have a mortgage coming on stream within a matter of weeks and I needed cash but I figured it best to hold onto the car on the basis that

a) I really wouldn't want to step down to anything less comfortable or even more underpowered!
b) taking into consideration the cost of changing the car I woudl have cost myself a couple or few grand on that anyway.

Obviously an E36 M3 would be a very nice consolation if you're "down grading" but are you really going to end up that much better off financially?  Maybe you have done the maths? 

My advice would be to pay off your car loan (if you have one) and then talk to the banks and get what you can from them for a mortgage.
- or if Ken can show you how to hide a car loan then all the better!!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 06:12
Well I was hoping to put it up for sale in a casual way for a lot of money and see if I get a bite. If i do and i bring a nice M3 in from the UK I could be throwing 10k back in the bank towards a deposit. Also,my loan repayments on the car would half.

I haven't given it massive thought yet,was just thinking about it last night.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 06:16
Rich

I know of an absolutely mint 93 m3 for sale. PM if you want more details.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 06:18
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 06:38
1100 Euro Tax, 2K+ Insurance, 25mpg (if you're good), HUGE main dealer service cost, an older car never requires JUST an oil change - always something small wearing out. You WILL want to modify it.

I'm 10 years down the mortgage route, can really only afford my M3 now.

If you really want to save money, honestly this is not the type of car to buy, a secondhand corolla would be more suitable.

You have your one sorted out, you know it well, there should be less surprises in the future that will sap out your loose cash after all the bills are paid. Your best bet would be to keep your own.

Property purchase is all about compromise in the beginning, I do not no know how anybody can afford it starting out now - fair play to ya !

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 06:45
Thats all true Nigel. I maybe need to think about it more and do some sums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 07:02

I'd agree with the above too, I now prescribe to the multiple asset theory with cars etc - instead of one expensive motor.

Having the company car helps me a lot too.

I was told once by a mate who went from 328 to M3 that the bills virtually double!

@nn_dd: you are a brave man with an M3 and an alfa GTV!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 07:02
Originally posted by Richie Richie wrote:

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replied - dont mind the boys either - go for it!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 07:08
@eamo: would he not be better looking at E30 M3?!?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 07:12
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@eamo: would he not be better looking at E30 M3?!?


absolutely!! - I stand to be corrected but our Rich is not an e30 guy!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 07:14
rubbish! we all have a heart for the E30 - 'tis burnt into your soul.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 07:15
I hope your right
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 08:03

... I'd subscribe to the 'ditch the car and put the money in a gaff' school of thought. Fine, you can hide the loan, but you still have to pay for the loan (on a depreciating asset) each month. You make a finite amount each month after all. And the mortgage payment is only thing:

Lumpsum for the solicitor fees & to get the house half way habitable - old dolls you bring back don't go for the "fancy a bit of rumpy bumpy under the cardboard" line. Or sitting on a cavity block for that matter.  Not to mind a TV, fridge, hob, washing machine, possible kitchen etc etc..

then you have monthly payments on: ESB, Gas, life & mortgage protection, house insurance, sky, telephone/Broadband etc.. all on top of the mortgage. If it's an apartment, then there's the yearly maintanence/upkeep fee to factor in.

At least by releasing a cash sum from the wheels you can get all that stuff done & dusted, can adjust to the reduced disposable income, and then figure out how to finance something tasty again (& your car is trés tasty, lad. That CSL boot is the piece-de-resistance).

And on another positive, if you're knocking about in something you consider a stop gap and not too fussy about, we might see you out at the next trackday in it!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 08:06
I do love the e30 but I wouldn't drive a LHD car. Design wise it's a peachy car.
I'm also looking into the 328's now so maybe a tasty one of those will fill the gap. Who knows.
Think I'll speak to the Bank Manager first before I do anything stupid.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-January-2006 at 08:12
maybe not do anything stupid at all rich! ;-)
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