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grahame34m5
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I've just read this thread through and my my some great contributions to the debate. The only thing is that I use to have colour in my hair but know its gone grey it taken so long. PS top posting guys |
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And he forgot to add, M5 is top choice..... |
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Not half as grey as my hair went writing all this stuff, and waiting for the replies to some of my admittedly 'challenging' comments 518i Touring? M5? 540i? Nope, we're all wrong here Sorry guys-in this case I think we should abide by the independent 'Neutral' verdict, and let the original nominators of the E34 award, Car Mechanics magazine, have the last work here. So 525i 24v Vanos it is then! Just like my very own Touring then-don't you just love happy coincidences Cheers everyone |
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fingerman
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Sorry but you can't let it end there !
I disagree with the 525 vanos - I think my 530 M60 is better (as I've have a 525 vanos) - it's more economical, faster and sound better. When you have that kind of power you always want more Especially when your dealing with todays 2 litre turbo diesel jobbies on the motorway! I would love to own an M5, but I think my next choice is a 528 (e39) - boo, hiss - but the car is mint I'll get me coat |
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Omigawd-here we go again Well I can deal with 2 litre turbodiesel jobbies on the motorway quite well in my 540i What mpg does your 530i do on the motorway then? By the way don't go by the OBC reading as they're not 100% accurate-the one on my 540i was over-reading by nearly 10% before I calibrated it using the brim method. I love the sound of my 540i V8, but I also like the smooth 'zing' of the 525i six as it approaches the redline. I own both the sexy V8 and the sensible 525i 24v Vanos, but I'm still going to agree with Car Mechanics verdict of the 525i, as they're more numerous on the used market and the unwary won't be caught out by possible Nikasil problems. My own 525i isn't that much more economical than my 540i, but in the real world it has to just edge the V8 models into second for the kind of buyers Car Mechanics magazine is aimed at-people upgrading from mid-range Fords and Vauxhalls etc. Of course WE would choose the V8's, as we're enthusiasts, but Car Mechanics verdict had to include cold, hard real-world running costs and probable repair bills etc. Even though to us in the know the 525i's may only hold a small cost advantage over good V8's, it's still technically an advantage so ever-so-slightly pips the V8's to the post. Now I know someone's going to disagree with that, as you can't please all of the people all of the time. However, the 525i will please most of the people most of the time and on that note I'm going to bed now Alex
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stephenperry
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this is shaping up to be another candidate for "the neverending thread".... |
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IamSpartacus
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Go with the M5 and they'll need to be running rocket fuel to wrry you
I love the sound of my 5.38 Straight Six, especially when it's over 4000 rpm, but I'm not so keen on the smooth 'zing' of the pump at the petrol station
No, no, no, you'd choose the M5 if you weren't bringing common sense into it. I've run both of my M5's as daily drivers and they're fine, but most Car Mechanics tend to steer clear of them so you end up having to go to a specialist and paying that little bit more for the peace of mind of a well looked after car.
Did someone call?
What about the 525td?
Hoi, get up, we ain't done wi you yet.... In recognition of the quality thoughtful repsonses put forward by Alex in the face of the usual dross from me, I'm now firmly a member of the 525i camp.... though I did know of a rather special 520i when I lived in Dublin....... |
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Surely you mean the 525tds. The td is woefully slow and about as popular as the 518 |
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Yeah that too... don't know much about oilburners......
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The only thing you need to know about the 525td is that it couldn't out run a slug It had a feeble 115bhp which is nothing for such a big car. The 525 tds was much better with a credible 143bhp |
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Fiary nuff, I stand erected!
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RedOctober wrote: What mpg does your 530i do on the motorway then? By the way don't go by the OBC reading as they're not 100% accurate-the one on my 540i was over-reading by nearly 10% before I calibrated it using the brim method. Sorry, don't know the brim method ? - I generally got about 440 miles a tank - I have had 490 once and the obc said it average 33.6mpg !!! - Generally around the 30mpg btw - I wouldn't touch a diesel e34 with a barge pole! - would much rather have a 518 - Taxi ! Derek M5 - Your funny |
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RedOctober
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Fingerman-the brim method for measuring fuel consumption fairly accurately consists of filling the fuel tank quickly until the pump clicks off, then trickling in fuel until you can see the level rise in the filler neck. Just make sure you avoid sharp driving manouevres for the first few miles otherwise you'll slosh fuel out the filler neck and down the overflow. Next you either go for a very long single drive, or a weeks worth of representative normal motoring until the tank is at a low level-preferable less than quarter full, but not right on empty! Then you just re-fill the fuel tank again to the brim, note the exact amount of fuel you put in, and then note the mileage you have covered on the odometer. Then you simply divide the distance covered (in miles), by the fuel consumed (in gallons), and you get your mpg figure. The only other error you may get is odometer error, but these are usually not too bad in that respect, and you can check it from maps and known distance markers on long journeys. The E34 has an 80 litre tank, or 17.6 gallons in old money From your quoted figures, 440 miles on a 17.6 gallon tank equates to 25mpg if you run the tank to almost empty before refilling, which is risky. If we assume a safety measure of re-fuelling when the red light comes on, at 8 litres remaining (1.76 gallons-say we assume 1.6 gallons to make the maths easier), then that would mean you have covered 440 miles on 16 gallons, which equates to 27.5mpg. 490 miles would equate to around 30.6mpg, so your OBC reading of 33.6 mpg is around 10% optimistic, which is what my 540i worked out at funnily enough. I once got 485 miles out of my 540i before the red light came on. On a recent Scottish trip I got 520 miles out of my '95 525i 24v Touring auto before the low fuel light came on. Well, all that maths was about as exciting as watching stone-cold oil drain out of a sump on a winter's day Derek M5-you're naturally not biased towards the M5 in any way Engine sounds are very personal choices-I find it depends what mood I'm in. Sometimes I like the smooth 'zing' of the small-block BMW straight-six. Most of the time though I love the aggressive V8 bark of the 540i at the redline-more of an 'I'm going to head-butt you' type of engine noise than the cultured howl of the 6-pot, or the aggressive cultured bellow of the M5 at the redline My next door neighbour will totally outdo all of us though-he has a 1970 Chevvy Camaro 5.7 V8, and the snarling racket this monster makes at idle makes my 540i, even at the redline, sound like a broken washing machine. When he blipped the throttle and I was standing at the back of this tank, an unholy cloud of hot, sooty exhaust smoke nearly knocked me over and gassed me. Something to do with 'rich mixture on the carburettors', whatever those strange things are Sadly if I had an M5 the local ***heads would try and 'borrow' it-my 540i already had 1 failed attempt to steal it from the driveway and suffered a damaged door and steering lock, which I bodge repaired. They didn't even bother with my old blue boring 525i Touring, so there's another reason for Joe Bloggs upgrading to a BMW to avoid the 'sexy' models and get a less-desirable-to-thieves model. Such as a 525i 24v Vanos perhaps? See-you all know it makes sense |
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Thanks for that - I'll try the brim method next time I fill up, which may be a while as I filled up yesterday at the local supermarket (who's name I won't mention but it's blue and white!) for 87.9p a litre and I had the 5p a litre offer - Quality - £50 to fill her up
I can't believe how economical the 540 is - it seems very similar to the 530 - if not better ? For that size engine and car it's a credit to the efficient germans! Anyway, if I had the money I'd get an M5 - need to build a garage first as the missus wouldn't be to chuffed with one of them - and although they are still silly money - I prefer the E39 M5 |
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Derek M5 - I bet you have one of these outside your house !
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-M5-ParkingSign-for-3-5-7-series-m3 -z3-z4-320-Gift_W0QQitemZ130027230232QQihZ003QQcategoryZ1037 4QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Biased? Moi, Incroyable!!
That's why I'm on my second one [ UOTE=fingerman]Derek M5 - I bet you have one of these outside your house ! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-M5-ParkingSign-for-3-5-7-series-m3 -z3-z4-320-Gift_W0QQitemZ130027230232QQihZ003QQcategoryZ1037 4QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem [/QUOTE] Nah.... I, got one of these instead..... And one of these... Combined weight of 75kgs and very protective of the house! |
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Funny how our dopey Alsation did nothing as the tea leaves tried to purloin my 540i. Had they tried to steal the 525i Touring, which he goes out in, I'm sure he would have kicked up some kind of a rukus as he'd get no 'walkies' then I've never let him forget his useless 'guard dogging' farce though |
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Unfortunately didn't have the dogs then.....
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Nah.... I, got one of these instead..... And one of these... Combined weight of 75kgs and very protective of the house![/QUOTE]
Yeah! and we've got one of these which is why we've got tourers and he thinks that they were invented just for trips to the park...they probably were!.Anyway shouldn't you lot get sensible and stick to 525's as you know they are the best all rounders. I really appreciate the commitment shown to the 540 as it truly is a fantastic vehicle and with you guy's behind it they will run for ever. However what about us humble but wise 525 owners, yes, us, the salt of the earth. The people who have assisted in declassifying the snob status of the e34. I'd only ever bought one years ago because I wanted to attain snob status now I find I'm down there with the guttersnipes. so much for Practical Mechanics. I'm Common .....I'm Common Edited by BULLDOG |
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