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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2006 at 11:25
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As a Civil Engineer.....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2006 at 11:02
It does not matter how much rubber (apart from the legal requirement) on your tyres if you are going to aquaplane it will happen. I seen this happen a while ago coming back from Glasgow with bus.
Big 4x4 coming other direction standing and falling water hit patch nothing motor could do started to aquaplane he/she had no control and crashed in to ditch at side of road.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2006 at 09:29

Just a little comment from Ireland.

Our last track day was in torrential conditions. The drivers that went out and drove hard learned a lot about their limits and the car's limits.

It annoys me when people say they will not do a track day when it is wet. A wet day is when you learn most. You could come away from a wet track with a skill that could save yours or an innocent person's life.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2006 at 09:02

Originally posted by m3tiko m3tiko wrote:

Originally posted by grahame34m5 grahame34m5 wrote:

CHANGE THE F'IN TIRES even race car drivers don't do slicks in the rain.


Mon ami the tyres are still within government guidelines...whatever that may be?

But you're not entirely wrong as the thread line is only about 2mm's i'd say from the indicator.Tyre change is imminent as when the new wheels come on.

This however does not change the fact the roads need to be more driver adaptable in events such as heavy rainfall...which our beloved country tends to see

As a Civil Engineer and fellow motorist I wholeheartedly agree with your comments.

However as grahame has quite rightly pointed, our fuel duty, road tax fund etc goes on everything else bar the roads.

Aside from surface water issues, shoddy patch-up work by contractors maintaining existing services has also been the norm for near enough a decade, only now have transportation departments in local government authorities acknowledged the problem.

Back to surface water though and in terms of the money required first of all for research into what materials to use, sustainability issues and as mentioned the tree-hugger enviromentally friendly contingent and your better off just accepting that your going to have to change your tyres at 4mm mate.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2006 at 00:07
Maybe you're right I should've held my speed at 20mph on the motorway and increase my chances of being involved and causing an accident...

Read the threads mate they all state hazardous conditions...none of them said "guess what I was doing 90/100mph in the rain", if so they are stupid and reckless which I'm not.

All I was suggesting that preventive measures for the future especially if climate changes are certain.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-December-2006 at 22:36

Originally posted by m3tiko m3tiko wrote:

the roads need to be more driver adaptable in events such as heavy rainfall...which our beloved country tends to see

Err, no.

"The Driver needs to be more adaptable to the conditions..."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-December-2006 at 21:30
Yup nightmare at the moment. Any road rutted road is just a nightmare right now. Terrified of puddles now car just seems to levitate off the road.

Also nearly wiped the car last wednesday. Picture the scene - heading up to aberdeen at about 7pm from Glasgow, late enough to avoid most of the traffic. Start car and after U turn DSC light comes on. Dman not again. never mind - turn car off at next set of lights and then restart to reset system. Ah well no joy, I'll just take it easy. Leaving Dundee i am at the last roundabout and manage to arrive at it with a lorry to my left on the inside lane. It looked like it was going to take it nice and wide so I carried on hoping to squeeze through. got halfway round and noticed he wasn't taking it wide anymore. OH OH, better get through sharpish. You can see whats coming. One wee twitch of the right foot and I'm ahead. Was just turning to the left to carry on straight through the roundabout and the next thing I'm staring at the left hand verge, then the centre verge and barrier then the left verge again AAAHHHHH Slide caught and everything apart from my heart is fine. My mistake i know but scared the living daylights out of me. DSC sure is a godsend, shame it wasn't on then!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-December-2006 at 13:03

I heard it was to do with the new gritting techniques on the roads.  The council are "spraying" the roads with something rather than firing grit at your car at ver 60mph.

"There is now Brine added to the grit as it spread. It's still the same grit thats always been used just brine comes out aswell. The brine is supposed to stop the grit "spraying" all over the road. It seemingly makes the grit stick to the road. And it isnt cheaper than whats been used in previous years"

 

Basically the brine turns to slippy s**t (keeping the Dunkmeister happy :D)

 

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http://www.strathycruise.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=72961

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-December-2006 at 10:48
Yup the roads are terrible...the weather is rubbish Dunc

Paul I'll need to check this out, however only happened in the wet.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-December-2006 at 10:28
Originally posted by M3CSL M3CSL wrote:

Rear trailing arm bushes go on the CSL, dunno if it's the same for M3?


Bound to be... but would that not show up in other driving conditions?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-December-2006 at 10:22
Rear trailing arm bushes go on the CSL, dunno if it's the same for M3?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-December-2006 at 10:13
Originally posted by M3CSL M3CSL wrote:

There must be something wrong with the car if it's that bad?


Modified motorway speed. All December's rain in 2 days. Some of it lying heavily. Low temperatures. Less than optimally maintained roads. Guesstimated 2mm tread on large, wide, summer sports tyres.

IMHO just a nasty combination of factors.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-December-2006 at 10:09

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There must be something wrong with the car if it's that bad?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-December-2006 at 09:59
Gary I was in the 6th as I know a lower gear would most def lead to the tyres spinning.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-December-2006 at 09:41
just about to head to Aberdeen in this weather , new tryes at the back and 4/5 mm at the front . will update if anythiong exciting happens
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-December-2006 at 09:39
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-December-2006 at 00:32
Thanks for the tip Muppet

I will endeavour to change my tyres when the tread hits 4mm mark...

On the first point I think I was driving slower...40/50mph in these conditions is being precautious.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-December-2006 at 23:17

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1.  when it rains drive slower..

2.  2mm of tread if you want to avoid aquaplaning try changing at 4mm.....if you do not want to do that see point no.1

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-December-2006 at 21:44
Oh yes in this weather my right foot isn't anywhere to be seen near the pedal...I merely let the car roll in gear.

I recall talking to a civil lad who insisted on todays highways using a porous type of sediment to totally eliminate any surface water...I think he was on crack when he said that cos from what I've experienced it seems....not!!



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Mon ami the tyres are still within government guidelines...whatever that may be?

 

Yes but is your right foot within government guidelines  Wide tyres and lowish tread is always gonna have trouble with aquaplaining. Saying that my rears are about the same at the moment but I don't seem to get as much jip,weird.

This however does not change the fact the roads need to be more driver adaptable in events such as heavy rainfall...which our beloved country tends to see

 

Sadly road tax, fuel duty and all other forms of revenue raised from the motorist is spent on anything but the roads. It goes staight to the tree huggers to spend on what ever method of making the motorists life a greater pain in the ass.



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