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pedromatos
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Topic: E30s: 318 vs 323 and 325 Posted: 15-November-2003 at 15:48 |
in portugal they cost about 4500£ more ou less(7500€ or 10000€) they are cheap that the M3 and the power is almost the same, I will maybe buy a 323i e21 for 1500€(-/+ 1000£) just nide a paint, and it is quite a happy driving machine, I have a friend that have a 323i e21 and he is installing a turbo from escort rs turbo(mk3 or mk4?) let´s see how it stay´s.(sorry the bad english)
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paul325i
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Posted: 15-November-2003 at 14:35 |
pedromatos wrote:
why dont you buy a e30 320is with 192hp, in portugal there are a lot of them. |
In UK rare as hell, and left hand drive only.
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pedromatos
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Posted: 15-November-2003 at 13:38 |
why dont you buy a e30 320is with 192hp, in portugal there are a lot of them.
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dbanbery
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David S Banbery [L/20973]
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Posted: 03-November-2003 at 09:53 |
lol, ill agree with that
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daddy cool
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Posted: 03-November-2003 at 01:51 |
sorry guys but i thought the whole thing about the three series was the fact that its a drivers car !!! perfectly balanced , comfortable, great familly motoring , and of course superb for showing all the crap boyracers in their novas and jap crap rice burners how to perfectly powerslide a car into and out of corners and roundabouts . Surely automatics arent gna give you the controll that a manual will even if you select your gear manually ! and of course if you forget or do it buy accident the auto box will change up a gear mid slide and cause the car to stop spinnig and dig in , NASTY when it happens ( especially ifyouve got your missis or your mum in the car , sorry mum )
i think at the end of the day tho it all comes down to personal preference , i guess we arent all hooligans !!!!!!!!!!
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e30 2.7 cab
e30 325i
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dbanbery
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David S Banbery [L/20973]
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Posted: 25-October-2003 at 18:19 |
paul just loves his 325!!
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paul325i
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Posted: 25-October-2003 at 17:20 |
falkster wrote:
paul325i wrote:
The E36 is still a capable car, alot of people dismiss it because its larger and heavier but it can hold its own against alot of top cars. The E30 M3 is the true sports car as falkster says, but i wouldn't want to run one as an everyday car, to much of a classic to waste, plus they are minging to drive round town. |
Dont agree. They are very good to drive everyday. The value is not going to drop so the comment being too much of a classic to waste is not correct. I bet ya in 5 years time when mine has another 20k on the clock its still gonna be worth more than a E36 M3 on a T plate.
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It is a waste really though, running one everyday it will get dented, worn, and with very high mileage the E30 M3 is worth peanuts. You are probably right about it being worth more than an E36 in 5 years but thats because its rarer not because its just better, the E30 has a cult status whereas the E36 is more of an M3 for everybody, and the E46 even more so (except price wise).
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dbanbery
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David S Banbery [L/20973]
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Posted: 25-October-2003 at 15:27 |
like most new cars........
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falkster
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Posted: 25-October-2003 at 10:21 |
A friend of mine has an E46 M3 and another with SMG. Great cars, very fast but not a drivers car. You can tame your driving down to suit conditions in an E30 but because of all the electrical crap on E46 (and others) you cant get to see what the car REALLY does.
Chris
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dbanbery
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David S Banbery [L/20973]
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Posted: 25-October-2003 at 01:29 |
only ever seen 2 e30 m3s in real life.... seen 100s of e36 m3s and 1000s of e46 m3s.... im actually put off by the e46 m3 cos theyre soo common..... too many people with too much money....... dammit gimme some
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falkster
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Posted: 24-October-2003 at 21:27 |
paul325i wrote:
The E36 is still a capable car, alot of people dismiss it because its larger and heavier but it can hold its own against alot of top cars. The E30 M3 is the true sports car as falkster says, but i wouldn't want to run one as an everyday car, to much of a classic to waste, plus they are minging to drive round town. |
Dont agree. They are very good to drive everyday. The value is not going to drop so the comment being too much of a classic to waste is not correct. I bet ya in 5 years time when mine has another 20k on the clock its still gonna be worth more than a E36 M3 on a T plate.
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paul325i
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Posted: 24-October-2003 at 14:53 |
The E36 is still a capable car, alot of people dismiss it because its larger and heavier but it can hold its own against alot of top cars. The E30 M3 is the true sports car as falkster says, but i wouldn't want to run one as an everyday car, to much of a classic to waste, plus they are minging to drive round town.
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dbanbery
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David S Banbery [L/20973]
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Posted: 24-October-2003 at 13:19 |
wasnt thinkin of ever buying one, theyre too run of the mill and blend too well..... while others think thats a good thing its easy for some fool to stick an m3 badge on a 325 or 328 etc and it look too authentic..... that sucks.. the e30 m3 is the don, and i know that without being in one since ive read up! (that doesnt mean i dont want you to show me what it REALLY does!)
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falkster
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Posted: 23-October-2003 at 22:54 |
dbanbery wrote:
did they do a special e30 m3 rack then? isnt the e36 rack the same? i know the lower front legs on mine are the same on the 34, and the 36, so it wouldnt suprise me if the e36 m3 RHD rack fitted bosh straight in...? although isnt the e36 wider? enighten me i think im a bit outta my depth
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No it doesnt fit. The best rack to fit is a 325 sport but as decribed earlier its not as good and takes away the feel of driving. The only way to drive M3 is LHD. You can get used to it within a couple of drives. Ive had a Golf Rallye and that also was great.
Dont even consider an E36 M3, they are just high powered executive cars. An M3 E30 is a racing car.
You see when I take you out in mine!!!
Chris
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dbanbery
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David S Banbery [L/20973]
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Posted: 23-October-2003 at 15:13 |
the missus cant drive
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dbanbery
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David S Banbery [L/20973]
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Posted: 23-October-2003 at 15:11 |
did they do a special e30 m3 rack then? isnt the e36 rack the same? i know the lower front legs on mine are the same on the 34, and the 36, so it wouldnt suprise me if the e36 m3 RHD rack fitted bosh straight in...? although isnt the e36 wider? enighten me i think im a bit outta my depth
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dbanbery
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Posted: 23-October-2003 at 15:08 |
yeh i think i will..... unless i cant afford to even change mine next year... ill be looking to sell mine for over a grand hopefully.... i just need to finish tidying it up
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Eamo
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Posted: 23-October-2003 at 09:54 |
Danny
go for the 323 - savage amount of torque and the sound of the six pots!
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Eamo
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Posted: 23-October-2003 at 09:53 |
dbanbery wrote:
yeh yeh cool..... i posted similar words in the other thread..... nice one mate... u gotta see my e30, it aint minted yet but im working on it.... old bmw = good investment... is it true that you can get an e30 m3 in RHD, a limited edition? if not does it detract from the value converting it? is it really worth it? |
I test drove an e30 rhd that had been converted by Birds and compared against the lhd the steering is a lot slower which is why I bought a lhd one. A lot slower you say? How can that be? Its impossible to describe what I mean but if you drove the 2 you would notice a huge difference. The beaut about the e30 m3 is that you can steer it around a corner without having to slow down or feel as if the car is on a razors edge with the arse of it feeling as if its about to go t*ts up!
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Mark R
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Posted: 23-October-2003 at 07:59 |
dbanbery wrote:
yeh yeh cool..... i posted similar words in the other thread..... nice one mate... u gotta see my e30, it aint minted yet but im working on it.... old bmw = good investment... is it true that you can get an e30 m3 in RHD, a limited edition? if not does it detract from the value converting it? is it really worth it? |
You could get the E30 M3 in RHD form, mostly they were converted by Birds (The place, not the tottie). I'm no M3 guru, but from what other people say the handling is effected by the conversion beacause of the extanded brake linkages and the different steering rack used. The LHD has something like 3.2 turns lock to lock, the RHD varients used the 325 rack which gives approx 4.0 turns lock to lock.
Get a LHD, stops the misses from driving it
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Mark Roberts
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Someone left a note on my windscreen. It read 'Parking Fine' that was nice
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