Provisional licence holders

Its strange how the licence classes have changed, and how people don't realise.

People with test pass before October 97 have 7.5 ton wagon, and 16 seat minbus on their licence, those afterwards don't, and anyone who has had to renew their licence doesn't (like me for diabetes)

So I can't drive a landrover safai for example.

Those of you still left with grandfather rights can still find yourselves on the wrong side of the law, as the british gov did a deal with europe, but hasn't told the public.

So, for example, pittsy and rhys can drive landrover safari's, transit minibuses, 7.5 ton trucks etc....................but............only in the uk, and only for private purposes, so you couldn't have the landrover as a company car for example, and you couldn't drive a 7.5 ton truck for work, and you couldn't hire a minibus and do a baccy run with your family to france........etc etc etc.

Its ok altering things, but not telling people is terrible, and they put the onus on you to find out with the "ignorance is no excuse" crap 

Does this mean that us 'old-folk' can drive stuff that these young 'whipper-snappers' can't?

Quite right too!

(now where's me milk-float?)

larzyh wrote: I know of no European country other than the UK who operate a Learner Driver system.

I'm surprised by this comment...I thought they all did, including you, but you choose not to enforce yours.

Our licences have been changing to fall inline with europe too, max weights, max seating etc etc.

kbannon wrote: b318isp wrote: The loophole should be tightened, but a lot more is needed (as per the UK system) to make a real difference. With operation GoSlow kicking off in a few weeks the risks on 1st/3rd prov licencees will increase.

Working in Dublin City Centre at the present, only for I know what the traffic I would be driving in. The train is a complete pain in the butt, never on time. Operation go slow should be fun this year if they start to clamp down on the licences. There was a major checkpoint on the locan road a couple of months back, about 20 Gardai checking tax/insurance. Large number of cars pulled in.

Security2U wrote: Its a load of if people want 2 drive on provisionals let them im on my 2nd so far if these boyz racer lads who giv every young lad a bad name get a full license they ill get cheaper insurance powerful cars and they ill think there great on there full if the cops get them that it wont be as bad as if they had there provisonal license still its not noing the rules of the road that is killing people its speed or drink drivers i could be on my provisonal license Full license or just hav a fishing license with me i could still do 150mph out a road and crash in to sum1 and kill him and myself wat should be done i think is bring in the speed cameraz or more guards on the roads.

Just get your full licence and stop whining.

I love it when people say they couldn't pass their driving test now !

What pittsy is saying is he doesn't think he could reach the min standard required to be allowed to drive on British roads unsupervised.......

Of course he could !

The test over here is better than it has ever been, it just seems to be being bogged down with older people (possibly like pittsy) forgetting that they couldn't always drive, and have actually learnt a lot over the years, and they seem to want new drivers to have all their experience.

If you Irish boys really want to feel hard done by, imagine having to drive to the British system, you can't drive unsupervised at all until you've passed a test, theory, hazard perception, & practicle.

Its a load of if people want 2 drive on provisionals let them im on my 2nd so far if these boyz racer lads who giv every young lad a bad name get a full license they ill get cheaper insurance powerful cars and they ill think there great on there full if the cops get them that it wont be as bad as if they had there provisonal license still its not noing the rules of the road that is killing people its speed or drink drivers i could be on my provisonal license Full license or just hav a fishing license with me i could still do 150mph out a road and crash in to sum1 and kill him and myself wat should be done i think is bring in the speed cameraz or more guards on the roads.

Sure some of the driving test centres leave a lot to be desired, when i was doing my test I was in the driving school beside it before hand going thru some last minute checks, the instructors were commenting that the tester brought a motorcyclist thru a stop sign 3 times and he didnt stop once that same guy passed his test as he was the only one out at the time.

My test from the moment I met the tester to the time he gave me the slip of paper was 15 mins, I rang swmbo and she was astonished how quickly my test was over.

Dont forget the last time that there was a major backlog on people waiting for tests, they all got amnesties.