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    Posted: 15-May-2013 at 07:26
Looks like BMW are being run by the tree hugging marketing department instead of people passionate for the brand.

Look at this crap, especially the last paragraph.
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Bear in mind that next season's F1 rule changes mean that engines will be downsized to 1.6 litre, albeit a V6 turbo

So if engines are more efficient, but provide the same power - is it a problem?





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Yes, its a huge problem. 

I dont drive an F1 car and I couldn't give a crap about the environment. I bought an M car because I want the power and the knowledge that I have a monster, not a tuned up 116i. 

I bought BMW because I want build quality and a prestige brand, if this trend continues, there's no point in BMW M, we should all just buy Kia and have it tuned. Angry
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Campbell, I agree with you on this. I believe a car's engine plays such a huge % in a car's overall character and personality, the likes of lambo v12s etc. Bmw M cars engines absolutely fall into this category. They have won many awards for this. It's such a shame now that we are now heading down a road where manufacturers are being pushed to develop smaller engines just to show political correctness and are not really listening to us car enthusiasts.
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Quite agree.
 
I'm old skool but not an old fart.
 
I want cubes in my engines not turbos.
 
I want big V8s, V10s V12 etc.   I don't want some lumpy 2.0 four pot with three turbos or whatever to give the performance of my 4.4 V8. 
 
Turbo charging within an inch of the engines life will not give a smooth revving engine.  You need 6, 8 or more cylinders to give the smooth running which is what I want in an engine.  An engine running at higher pressures due to charging or tunning etc can only be more unreliable.  A relatively unstressed normally aspirated 6pot or V8 engines will be much more reliable.
 
Mibbie a supercharged V8 purely for the sound of it.
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A 3 cylinder engine will also sound dreadfull.
 
Think how awful a 3 cylinder motorbike engine sounds.  A 4 pot DIEsel engine almost sounds better.
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Originally posted by Cambell Cambell wrote:

if this trend continues, there's no point in BMW M,
IMHO there is no reason for BMW M since the E30 M3 - discuss......
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Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

IMHO there is no reason for BMW M since the E30 M3 - discuss......
 
IMHO, the E30 M3 doesn't have enough cylinders.Wink
 
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Originally posted by Andrew Rolland Andrew Rolland wrote:

IMHO, the E30 M3 doesn't have enough cylinders. End of discussion
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Nah, I'm interested to hear what others think about lumpy 3 pot engines with hairdryers!
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Yip agree also, just think how awful a 1.0 Corsa 3cylinder with a crappy chaved up exhaust sounds!? Is that what an M car is going to sound like in the future!? If so I'm off to Audi, they still make a nice V8! :))
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Originally posted by Andrew Rolland Andrew Rolland wrote:

Nah, I'm interested to hear what others think about lumpy 3 pot engines with hairdryers!
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Originally posted by vpricey vpricey wrote:

Yip agree also, just think how awful a 1.0 Corsa 3cylinder with a crappy chaved up exhaust sounds!? Is that what an M car is going to sound like in the future!? If so I'm off to Audi, they still make a nice V8! :))


wash your mouth out young man!

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Originally posted by stevie53 stevie53 wrote:

Originally posted by vpricey vpricey wrote:

Yip agree also, just think how awful a 1.0 Corsa 3cylinder with a crappy chaved up exhaust sounds!? Is that what an M car is going to sound like in the future!? If so I'm off to Audi, they still make a nice V8! :))
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Lol. I thought that would get you lot going!! But still if they're going to sound as bad as a chavved up corsa....no ta.
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Originally posted by vpricey vpricey wrote:

But still if they're going to sound as bad as a chavved up corsa....no ta.

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No don't get an Audi, get a Volkswagen, you can get a Passat with a W12!  Audi running gear but not driven by cCensoredks.
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i want to cry..... you here corsa B's an C's all over the place and i "working one" still sounds like the tapets are dancing on the bonnet! and that's at tick over! 

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Is this the correct point to introduce this ?



Nuff said !
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Just means I'll have one more cylinder over an M!!!
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