E30 M3 with blown /no ngine??

Hi there,

I'm about to embark on converting an E30 M3 to run a Turbocharged Cosworth YB for 400 bhp+ potential, so I'm on the lookout for another car to convert into a full track day weapon!

Must be stright and clean, (don't want to think about painting it, and I couldn't drive a tatty basket!)

Interior is not too important, as I'm going to strip it and stick a  cage in there too to keep it all nice and tight.

Any ideas on the prices for the above?

Are they around, or am I going to have to convert my present example??

Thanks and Regards

Weeksy    

Mags,

Just left a post for you matey.

How trucked is it? Must be bad to be on the way to car heaven.

Colour? I want a black one like yours my good man!

Regards

Weeksy

Amorgan,

Do you mean on the donor vehicle, or the car all finished??

Regards

Weeksy

Amorgan,

I'm budgeting about 4 grand for a car, and all in 10 to 12 grand.

That will include the engine and box, quaife diff, coilovers, poly bushes all round, Ap brakes up front(and 17" wheels to cover them), braided lines inside the car and such like.

I want to have the cage welded in for extra rigidity, and have a plumbed in fire extinguisher system too.

Does that sound about right you matey? I'm aware that these sort of projects always go over budget, but I want this all sorted to do a few track days! 

Regards

Weeksy

Amorgan,

Not as much as me matey, My saff will have to go to finance it all unfortunately.

I don't want to cut corners, or have an unfinished project, so it will have to go

Weeksy

Weeksy

Just a question why the cossy convertion??? and not a turbo S14, after all they both similar engine styles?

rr_ww,

Cheers for that reply matey!! And that link, that car is the B*llocks, mine a replica of that, but with Recaro buckets!!

The engines are similar in size and stats, but then completely different at the same time!!

That's exactly it sir. I think it's far easier to start off with an engine that is designed for forced induction, than to start trying to mod a N/A one. As rr_ww says, the port size / valve sizes /cam profiles on a N/A engine are  too big/ too big and too radical for turbo use. This would be changing all these components to make it work, otherwise it's lag city!!

And that is without taking into account the squish/ compression set up. I would hate to turn an S14 into a piston blowing mess, that would shame BMW.

Hence fitting the cossie engine would make it fast, relaible and would not upset the handling (I hope!) I will prob start at 350ish bhp, with 'green' injectors, a 3 BAR MAP Sensor, at34 turbo and re-written chip.This will give scope for 400 ish on that size turbo

Uwe,

Sorry mate, but the thought of producing 550 bhp from a std looking E30 M3 makes me weak at the knees! I doubt an S14 could ever be streched that far- unless someone knows better???

Regards

Weeksy  

Weeksy, there was in autotrader in colchester last week for 3500.  Been advertised in bmw car a while ago, same number, and been in autotrader for three weeks so it may still be available.

Was going to do the same with it as you are planning and flog the other bits off to fund it but blown minker requiring two turbo's and £500-00 excess on insurance for respray on m3 following naughty people keying it and the fact that insurance will not pay out for a rear spolier which won't paint has distracted funds somewhat.

I will try and find the ad

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Uwe,

We drive on the left here tho!!

Is a RHD steering rack not so good then??

All the sweet mechanicals and bodwork, only the engine and box non BMW!!

The best touring car bit is debatable sir, I have to say. The COsworths cleaned up so well, that the BTCC banned turbochargers!!

A victim of it's own success wouldn't you say?? 

If I am compromising the spec that much, would you be up for cahllenging the finished article on a track day??!!

Weeksy