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Horsetan 
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Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
 Topic: Reg PlatesPosted: 11-July-2004 at 15:57 |
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As long as you conform to the standards re: size and visibility / clarity of characters, I see no massive problem about being proud of where you come from (or, indeed, where you would want to be) |
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Mythago
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Joined: 30-December-2003 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 12 |
Posted: 11-July-2004 at 12:23 |
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Been curious about the whole IRL on a uk plate for as I've tempted to do the same to my 323! So reckon I'll get them changed shortly
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Horsetan
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Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 23:39 |
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Sounds like someone's bullin' there! If it can show up on ordinary flash photography, you can bet your last Euro that it'll show up on the Gatso... I reckon the standard pressed-aluminium plate is much more durable than the acrylic/plastic ones, but cannot find a supplier who will press me one with a yellow background.... Edited by Horsetan |
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BM Fan
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Joined: 19-January-2004 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1054 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 23:22 |
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It was the silver shadow effect on mine that got me all the attention www.maxem.ie/plate.jpg I imagine that if you can photograph the plate from a distance an angle with a regular camera and see the plate then I dont see how the speed cameras would miss it. Thought I saw one of the car shows or magazine testing a load of the options on plates and not one of them had any effect butthat was a while back. Anyway I'm on bog standard fully compliant plates now |
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Martin
In BMW exile at the moment (Shame on me for lurking!!!) Previous Models 2001 E39 520i Auto 1996 E36 M3 Evo Individual 1996 E36 328i Coupe 1997 E36 318i Conv 1992 E36 316i Sln 
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kbannon
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E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 20:55 |
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I was chatting to a fella from donegal before who had kind of hologram plates - he paid 60 eurons for them but apparently they cannot be seen by the cameras.
Doesn't stop an unmarked car pulling you over though! |
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Toxic
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Joined: 14-October-2003 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 841 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 20:52 |
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what about going for everything bog standard....lettering, white background etc, but just getting the white bckgrnd in a honeycomb style? I've been told, not sure if its true that the honeycomb pattern plays havoc with speed cameras??????
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Tom
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Horsetan
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Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 15:30 |
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...and the great thing is, the UK Police and MoT people have got no objection to these plates - as they stand - at all!!! 
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T.J.
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Joined: 22-September-2003 Location: Cork, Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2332 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 15:05 |
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Now that's a patriotic reg to get made up when located abroad. Fair play Horsetan!!! |
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Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i |
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Horsetan
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Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 15:02 |
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...but this:
probably is not. This is the rear plate on my old Six, as supplied by Fancy Plates. Although the character sizing is standard Irish, as is the Euroflag emblem, the yellow background is not (Fancy Plates turned it out in this colour to my commission, as the UK police - Bedfordshire Constabulary - stipulated to me on the one and only occasion that they pulled me up for having the white background on the rear). At the base of the plate, my little "advert" for the Clare Equestrian Centre would probably not be acceptable either.... |
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kbannon
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E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 14:53 |
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pretty much. It has become so strict that even incorrect sizing of the characters can result in an NCT failure.
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Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor
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Horsetan
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Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 14:51 |
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In other words, this bog-standard format: 
is acceptable (if you ignore the UK registration). This is the ordinary pressed aluminium plate available from most / all good Irish motor factors, in this case Ennis Motor Factors. |
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Eamo
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Joined: 13-May-2003 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 3450 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 14:24 |
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i dont think they do. They actually put the plate into a picec of black plastic. The garage info is on this piece of plastic.
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BM Fan
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Joined: 19-January-2004 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1054 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 13:40 |
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Guess they're illegal also. I suppose its not illegal to sell them but is illegal to use them, bit like radar. Really depends on the Gaurd and his attitude at the time.
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Martin
In BMW exile at the moment (Shame on me for lurking!!!) Previous Models 2001 E39 520i Auto 1996 E36 M3 Evo Individual 1996 E36 328i Coupe 1997 E36 318i Conv 1992 E36 316i Sln
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Toxic
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Joined: 14-October-2003 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 841 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 13:36 |
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What about all those dealers, especially the BMW ones who are notorious for it, that put their name on the plate at the bottom? |
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Tom
E39 1997 523i Oxford Green (Sold) ___________________________ |
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kbannon
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E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 12:42 |
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maybe so, but they don't pay the fine if they are wrong! <edit> IIRC newbie ends @ 50 posts & then you become a groupie </edit> Edited by kbannon |
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BM Fan
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Joined: 19-January-2004 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1054 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 12:32 |
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Very good on the Newbie confusion device, when do we stop being Newbies by the way? Just looked at fancyplates site and they have a disclaimer that states "Plates ordered from the Standard Irish plates Constructor are suitable for use on public roads in Ireland. Some plates ordered from our Fancy Plates Constructor may not meet requirements for use on public roads." Edited by BM Fan |
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Martin
In BMW exile at the moment (Shame on me for lurking!!!) Previous Models 2001 E39 520i Auto 1996 E36 M3 Evo Individual 1996 E36 328i Coupe 1997 E36 318i Conv 1992 E36 316i Sln
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kbannon
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E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 12:25 |
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not according to the links I mentioned before. Quote: The registration number consisting of numbers and letters must be in black on a white reflective background The flag of the EU and the letters "IRL" must be placed on the left-hand side of the plate, the flag comprising 12 gold stars in a circle, the letters in white beneath it, all on a blue reflective background. No other numbers, letters, marks, etc., should appear on your registration plate. |
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BM Fan
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Posted: 09-July-2004 at 12:22 |
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He accused me of putting them on to evade speed cameras, but they were on the car when I bought it, actually I bought it from a man of the cloth (Church if Ireland), somehow I think he put them on to match the ccolour of the car rather than evade the cameras. From reading about the cameras I don't think there is anything that prevents them being seen aside from leaving them filthy Looked around for as much info on plates as possible because I was so ticked off with him but based on this document SI 318/92 anything other than the 12 stars with IRL on the blue and the standard letters on a pure white background is illegal as far as I can see. 3. ( a ) The plate on which an identification mark is exhibited (in this Schedule referred to as "the plate") shall not contain any words, letters, numbers, emblems or other marks of any kind other than those required under this Schedule. I reckon its a quota game that they pick the responsible people that they can find their address and will show up in court, pay the fines etc rather than go after the no tax, no insurance unroadworthy car brigade cos it takes too much time and requires some real work. I'll probably be arrested on the way home now for that comment........ |
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Martin
In BMW exile at the moment (Shame on me for lurking!!!) Previous Models 2001 E39 520i Auto 1996 E36 M3 Evo Individual 1996 E36 328i Coupe 1997 E36 318i Conv 1992 E36 316i Sln
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Toxic
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Joined: 14-October-2003 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 841 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 11:45 |
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have a look at http://www.fancyplates.com/ You can make a really tasteful plate from this lot without going over the top and apparently they are legal. |
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Tom
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Kevin_E30_318iS
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Joined: 14-December-2002 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 883 |
Posted: 09-July-2004 at 10:17 |
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Better to get the new plates fitted as soon as you can. If the Guards will arrest a mother of 8 and drag her off the jail for non payment of a 160EUR fine, leaving the 12 year old kid in charge of the rest, they won't have any qualms in nicking you for your existing plates.
Maybe they thought they were photo-reflective plates? |
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