WTF???

Horsetan wrote:  Mazda's design team made a point of trying to re-create the spirit of the Elan, right down to the exhaust note, but with far more reliability than the Lotus ever had.

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T rouble

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but worth it

Doive wrote: Ah, but which came first? BMW Z1, designed in 1987, Mazda MX-5 designed in 1989. So the Mazda copied the Z1....

Hardly. MX5 was designed with the help of IAD, a British design house, using the original Lotus Elan as its inspiration.

Mazda's design team made a point of trying to re-create the spirit of the Elan, right down to the exhaust note, but with far more reliability than the Lotus ever had. They succeeded - and how.

In 1989, the first UK ones came on the market at �14,295. Even now, those early ones are unmistakeable and still work for a living.

The rest is history.

m3tiko wrote: MX-5 vs Z1...iconic maza wins hands down, not taking anything away from Z1's cos it opened the doors for the hot selling 3's and 4's.

How does that "not take anything away from the Z1"?

She really looks and drives superb and turns heads and gets noticed wherever you go. Be prepared for people stopping you to take photos, it happens to me all the time.

Turns heads..nae wunder pal...People yelling and taking pics...thats to give to the style police

If I was to see that car at a glance..i'd swear I thought it was a vectra!!!

Now each to their own but silly money spent and end up looking like that to me is a waste.

MX-5 vs Z1...iconic maza wins hands down, not taking anything away from Z1's cos it opened the doors for the hot selling 3's and 4's.

Alpina...engineered to high standards, nicest ones seen yet, one in gaydon and Mr Perrys holds its own as well. Looks on some are a bit tacky especially with stripes and all that pi$h. But then again, AC schnitz cars with stripes are a bit of an eye sore as well. Any car today for that matter with stripes is so old skool..




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Doive wrote: Ah, but which came first? BMW Z1, designed in 1987, Mazda MX-5 designed in 1989.

hmmm - as in "Which came first? The chicken or the egg?"

discuss.........

spokey wrote: I've often had doubts about the styling of the Z1... Here's one that's been "tastefully"(?) tarted up

Sorry - it still looks like a Mazda!

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Doive wrote: Peter Fenwick wrote: They just look so 70's. The graphics really make the car look dated IMO. An E21 looks like it's from the seventies anyway (probably because it is), adding the graphics adds something to the car if you ask me.

However a good design doesn't date. The E21 is quite a dated design but the alpina graphics just make it so much more so.

I saw an old 6 series today and it still looked fresh. However if you'd stuck a silly alipna bodykit and some naff stripes on it would have instantly made it look dated.

Sure alpina's are more individual than standard BMWs, but that doesn't make them stylish. BMW could do a limited run of 100 3 series with whale tail spoilers, 20" alloys, red crushed velvet seats and neons. They would be individual and rare but not stylish.

I respect Alpina cars but if I wanted a faster BM I would get an M car. Alpinas are IMO visualy just a bit tacky

 

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Shouldn't that be stomach turner it looks like a wannabe rice racer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

 

Popeye

The Alpina stripes resemble individuality and distictivness, does the 3.0 CSL with the "M" stripes on it look ugly/dated, IMO no, more classic and a signal of its potential, likewise for the Alpina cars these arn't just another 3,5,7,X...series on the road. ultimately they are an option for the new buyer. Each to there own. I say yes to stripes, but no to "Lexus" lights, unless its a Lexus!

 

Popeye 

Peter Fenwick wrote: They just look so 70's. The graphics really make the car look dated IMO.

An E21 looks like it's from the seventies anyway (probably because it is), adding the graphics adds something to the car if you ask me.